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Obama Committing Fraud ??
« on: July 29, 2009, 02:34:15 PM »
BHO allegedly uses Soc.Sec.# 042-68-xxxx of CT man born in 1890; WHY? Uses DOZENS!


We have previously posted this information but it is below the radar of all of the mainstream news media. Obama has allegedly been fraudulently using Social Security Numbers of deceased persons as his own as well scores of addresses throughout the U.S. He has allegedly used dozens of Social Security Numbers and Obama's Aunt Zeituni, illegally living in Boston, allegedly may have used one of Obama's numbers. His most frequently used Soc.Sec.# is 042-68-xxxx, originally issued to a Connecticut man born in 1890! Why? Social Security FRAUD is an issue that everyone can understand. We challenge the Mainstream Media to investigate this, and if the allegations are true, Obama should be IMPEACHED and indicted for Social Security FRAUD, identity theft, lying on official forms, etc. Thanks to mainstream media's studious non-interest in Obama's background, he is the most under-investigated President in U.S. history. Barry, We Hardly Knew Ye!

Here is a letter from Neil Sankey, a registered Calif. Private Eye and former Scotland Yard Dectective, to attorney Orly Taitz regarding research he did into the numerous Social Security numbers allegedly used by Barack Obama. His most frequently used Soc. Sec. number is 042-68-xxxx, (the first three digits ("042") indicate that it is a number issued to residents of Connecticut, a State in which Obama apparently was never a resident. The man to whom the number was originally issued was born in 1890. (See first entry below). Interestingly, none of these numbers was purportedly issued to a person residing in Hawaii. A compilation of the complete data has been filed as an Exhibit to the lawsuit filed by Major Stefan Cook v. Obama alleging Obama's Constitutional ineligibility to serve as President. Here is a link from Orly Taitz' website. Scroll down the page: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?tag=taitz . This raises lots of additional issues such as his use of aliases, such as Barry Soetoro, and the different variations of his name (below) which apparently he somehow failed to mention to the State Bar of Illinois as one of his other names.





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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 02:38:17 PM »
It's just the usual 0bama stuff.

0bama's a saint, 0bama's the messiah, so nothing to see here, move on, please.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 03:51:53 PM »
This has legs, barack is toast, this is hugh!!!11!
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 04:21:36 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 29, 2009, 02:38:17 PM
It's just the usual 0bama stuff.

0bama's a saint, 0bama's the messiah, so nothing to see here, move on, please.

No saint in that link, frank.
More like a crook.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 05:29:08 PM »
Wonder how the Lib media is going to spin this one?
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 05:43:15 PM »
Quote from: newbiered on July 29, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
Wonder how the Lib media is going to spin this one?

Easy........not cover it
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 05:45:38 PM »
Ok clear something up for me.

Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.

Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 05:55:21 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on July 29, 2009, 05:45:38 PM
Ok clear something up for me.

Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.

Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?

They would have applied for one after the start of the program to collect the limited benefits of the time.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 06:03:59 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on July 29, 2009, 05:45:38 PM
Ok clear something up for me.

Social Security (I thought) was a creation of FDR...so that makes it starting sometime in the '30's.

Why would someone born in 1890 have a SS #?

I have no opinion on this story but someone born in 1890 would get his SS# after 1936 when he was in his 40's. 

My great grandma was born in in 1890 as well (August 13th to be exact) and she had a SS number.   
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 06:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 29, 2009, 05:55:21 PM
They would have applied for one after the start of the program to collect the limited benefits of the time.


Ok I can see that.  I just assumed that the folks in their forties and up wouldn't have applied cause there'd not really be anything in the pot for them.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 06:10:14 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on July 29, 2009, 06:07:04 PM
Ok I can see that.  I just assumed that the folks in their forties and up wouldn't have applied cause there'd not really be anything in the pot for them.

That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.

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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 06:12:51 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 29, 2009, 06:10:14 PM
That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.



Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 06:19:38 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on July 29, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.

I had to check to be sure after saying that and hoping this page is accurate.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005140.html

1939-41 at birth was 62.81 staying under 68 until after 1971 for white males.
The program was a sham from day one.

On edit...

You could be right as there is no indication this bill is being pushed for any caring yet misguided reasonings.
It seems to be nothing more then an idealogical push to the left for authoritarian control on a completely dependent population.
SS is running out,no two ways about it and this would provide a possible solution along with nationalizing private retirement vehicles.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 06:28:38 PM »
Which means by the time we qualify there will be nothing left in the pot not to mention all of our children and or grandchildren
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 06:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 29, 2009, 06:10:14 PM
That was always the intent anyways for the entire program.
Maybe it is an urban myth but I have often heard that at the time 65 was still the threshold to collect but the average life expectancy was 63.

One needs to remember that this figure is an average, and at the time there was a much higher infant and childhood mortality rate than there is today. Those who lived into adulthood often lived almost as long as we do. So, its not quite as much of a sham as it appears because those who died young often died too young to have contributed anything to Social Security at all.

This isn't to say its not a sham, or a program that is destined to collapse under its own weight. Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 06:37:57 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on July 29, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Well that explains why the Dems want to manage our healthcare...they want to lower the life expectancy back down...through rationed healthcare...as a way to save Social Security.

I've been saying that since this whole "health care" fiasco came up.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 07:01:17 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 29, 2009, 06:32:20 PM
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 Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.

miskie, truer words have never been spoken.  :bow:

Of course, this is the entire objective of liberal/socialist politicians - strengthen the government at the expense of the people.
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2009, 08:30:11 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 29, 2009, 06:32:20 PM
One needs to remember that this figure is an average, and at the time there was a much higher infant and childhood mortality rate than there is today. Those who lived into adulthood often lived almost as long as we do. So, its not quite as much of a sham as it appears because those who died young often died too young to have contributed anything to Social Security at all.

This isn't to say its not a sham, or a program that is destined to collapse under its own weight. Social Security is still a poorly worked program that benefits the government more than those who contribute to it.

That is very true but using the the tables they show still illustrates that the expected payout was never very high.

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Calendar period    0       10       20       30       40       50          60           70        80

1939–1941    62.81    57.03    47.76    38.80    30.03    21.96    15.05    9.42    5.38
1949–1951    66.31    58.98    49.52    40.29    31.17    22.83    15.76    10.07    5.88
1959–1961    67.55    59.78    50.25    40.98    31.73    23.22    16.01    10.29    5.89

Those are average years left once the given age was achieved.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 08:34:46 PM »
They're going have to means-test it, it's insustainable in its present sorry-assed condition. That is, unless euthanasia really does become par for the course.

Obama is not the only fraud out there, ne he's the highest ranking one. I have heard of this CT number, guess it's his favourite. How he secured it, who knows?
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2009, 09:18:26 PM »
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Social security number in Hawaii start from 575-576, 750-751 digits

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/stateweb.htm

Hmmmm...
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2009, 09:27:15 PM »
Haven't heard this one, and don't have a clue of the validity, but if true and you're wondering how he secured it - just remember he worked for that epitome of truth and honesty - Acorn
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2009, 09:30:55 PM »
Quote from: rustybayonet on July 29, 2009, 09:27:15 PM
Haven't heard this one, and don't have a clue of the validity, but if true and you're wondering how he secured it - just remember he worked for that epitome of truth and honesty - Acorn
The most corrupt political family in Memphis is in the mortuary business.  Nothing like having a steady supply of names and social security numbers available to increase a family member's chances of getting elected to one office or another.
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Re: Obama Committing Fraud ??
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2009, 11:15:48 PM »
This is the first Ive heard of this Obama SS number issue - I did some preliminary poking about and the only correlation I can find is this same story reproduced everywhere.

At this moment, It doesn't pass the sniff test for me... But I am interested to see where it goes, and would be more than happy to be wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2009, 11:25:18 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 29, 2009, 11:15:48 PM
This is the first Ive heard of this Obama SS number issue - I did some preliminary poking about and the only correlation I can find is this same story reproduced everywhere.

At this moment, It doesn't pass the sniff test for me... But I am interested to see where it goes, and would be more than happy to be wrong.

Likewise, this just sounds like someones wet dream more then a real story.
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