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Offline bijou

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Obamacare: Code Blue
« on: July 21, 2009, 10:51:42 AM »
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We need a Do Not Resuscitate order for the flailing Democrats’ health care takeover plan.

It’s Code Blue and Team Obama is in panic mode.

Certain sign of desperation: Summoning the nutroots to help.

And another from Mark Knoller, who reports that the White House has moved up Obama’s health care statement today to 12:15pm in the Rose Garden.

And now this from Reuters:

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...The Democratic-led committee has been struggling to keep a group of fiscally conservative Democrats on board with the nearly $1 trillion, 10-year healthcare overhaul. The group, known as the Blue Dog Democrats, has said they cannot support legislation that would increase the massive federal budget deficit.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE56K3BS20090721

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/21/obamacare-code-blue/

 On edit: Oops made a complete mess of that.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 10:58:25 AM by bijou »



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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 11:14:09 AM »
I'm of two minds when it comes to this health care bill and the Cap and Tax. On the one hand, I want them to fail and never be voted on, let alone passed, but on the other , if they are passed, they will be such costly boondoggles, that they should cause the Dems to lose power for years to come. At the same time, I realize that once crap like this becomes law, it's near impossible to ever get it reversed.

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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 11:36:10 AM »
I'm of two minds when it comes to this health care bill and the Cap and Tax. On the one hand, I want them to fail and never be voted on, let alone passed, but on the other , if they are passed, they will be such costly boondoggles, that they should cause the Dems to lose power for years to come. At the same time, I realize that once crap like this becomes law, it's near impossible to ever get it reversed.
The worst thing about this (and this has been their intention from the beginning) is that once it does pass, it will give the government so much power and control that it will be far more difficult, if not impossible, to vote out all of these liberals in future elections. This will also allow them to further cement their power with cap 'n tax, card check, amnesty, more pork, more spending, more taxes, stifling dissenting views and anyone they see as a threat (Fairness Doctrine and the like), and more micromanagement of everyone's lives by means of saving health care costs.

Any benefits that we might see from this atrocity being passed will be far outweighed by the negatives. It just isn't worth it.

These people are the Skynet (T3 version) of politics. For decades, they have slowly subverted the economy, health care, education, etc. to the point where we are now, and they claim to be the ones to fix it if only we would allow them total control. Instead, they will use that power to turn this country into a socialist/fascist wasteland.
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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 11:43:41 AM »
Very soon, there will be no more money for them to take.
The US Govt will be bankrupt, China will call its loans.
Unemployment will further decrease the tax revenues.
Inflation will be double digit and around 20%.

I don't know exactly how much of this crap the public will take, but I don't think they'll take much more.
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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 12:15:03 PM »
I'm of two minds when it comes to this health care bill and the Cap and Tax. On the one hand, I want them to fail and never be voted on, let alone passed, but on the other , if they are passed, they will be such costly boondoggles, that they should cause the Dems to lose power for years to come. At the same time, I realize that once crap like this becomes law, it's near impossible to ever get it reversed.

Hi Thundley,

I appreciate your point of view; however I have a concern.  Libs know once a bill is passed giving away free stuff it is almost impossible to take it away.  If the health care bill was passed, in 2010 0r 2012 how would you get it repealed?

At the same time, on your point, each and every representative who votes for either cap and trade or BO care is on record and should be an easy target in their next election cycle.  I am trying to get our idiot democrat senator in FL to realize that unless he is speaking out against BO, he comes up for reeleciton in 2012, same as BO and there is a good chance if he is aligned with BO he will get swept out with the tide.  Sure hope so.

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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 12:53:47 PM »
Very soon, there will be no more money for them to take.
The US Govt will be bankrupt, China will call its loans.
Unemployment will further decrease the tax revenues.
Inflation will be double digit and around 20%.

I don't know exactly how much of this crap the public will take, but I don't think they'll take much more.

Those 'Loans' don't really work that way, they are mainly U.S. government securities, not commercial paper.  But, what would happen is that we would have to pay steeply increasing interest rates on the bonds to keep selling them, which we would have to do to keep the all the balls in the air, which means we would have to sell ever more bonds at ever higher yields in a death spiral of need vs. diminishing marginal returns.  THAT would be how we'll end up with toxic inflation levels.
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Re: Obamacare: Code Blue
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 06:02:38 PM »
It has been pointed out that--ironically--if Crap 'n Tax and YoMamaCare fail we will have the Stimulus to thank for it.

All in all it would be worth a trillion dollars to kill socialism once and for all as I believe Obama will do because as soon as the next commie steps up Obama will be resurrected as an example of what a cluster-@#$% such schemes invariably become.
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