Obama Might Temporarily Bypass Senate Ratification for Arms Treaty

[bijou]

With the clock running out on a new US-Russian arms treaty before the previous Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, expires on December 5, a senior White House official said Sunday said that the difficulty of the task might mean temporarily bypassing the Senate’s constitutional role in ratifying treaties by enforcing certain aspects of a new deal on an executive levels and a “provisional basis” until the Senate ratifies the treaty.

"The most ideal situation would be to finish it in time that it could be submitted to the Senate so that it can be ratified," said White House Coordinator for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Security and Arms Control Gary Samore. "If we're not able to do that, we'll have to look at arrangements to continue some of the inspection provisions, keep them enforced in a provisional basis, while the Senate considers the treaty." ...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negotiators-under-the-gun-might-temporarily-bypass-senate-ratification-for-treaty.html

[thundley4]

One of the major sticking points so far has been Russia’s continued frustration at US plans for a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic, an issue Samore said would “have to be addressed in the new treaty,” though he would not specify just how.

He doesn't need to specify how. We know 0Bama will back down and leave Europe defenseless.

I hope someone else can explain just how Barry can bypass the Constitutionally mandated role that the Senate plays in ratifying treaties.

[djones520]

How typical of this administration...  "Things aren't going the way I want it, so I'm going to ignore the Constitution and do what I want."

[Chris_]

He doesn't need to specify how. We know 0Bama will back down and leave Europe defenseless.

I hope someone else can explain just how Barry can bypass the Constitutionally mandated role that the Senate plays in ratifying treaties.

Any questions?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Well, to the extent the system deployment or other matters aren't actually dictated by law, he does have the discretion to order the Executive branch to do everything they would do as if the treaty existed.  He has that discretion as Commander-in-Chief and Chief Executive.  Not that doing so gives the Russians any incentive at all to give an inch on their position.  Why buy the cow, free milk, etc., you know the drill.... 

[Ptarmigan]

If I am correct, treaties have to be have Senate consent and involvement.

[thundley4]

If I am correct, treaties have to be have Senate consent and involvement.

Not so much involvement in the making of, but they do have final ratification  over treaties.

[Chris_]

What can we say?  We suspected it all during the campaign; saw hints of it in his policy pronouncements all the way up to the November election and beyond. 

And now that the American voting public has placed the Kenyan Marxist in the center seat for reals, we can see decision after decision and action after action that prove the suspicion we've had all along:

that we finally have someone in office for whom the Constitution is just so much toilet paper, and is unafraid of who knows it.  And with his brazenness as the the new benchmark, the moonbats - Rand called them the Looters and Moochers - are becoming more and more bold in flaunting the Constitution's restrictions on their authority than ever before.

Ladies and gentlemen, I had hoped that I would never have to say this, but we are not going to get our country back from these despots with eloquent speeches, mid-term (or any other) elections, or - I suspect - even "impeachment proceedings".

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

constitution lol

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's not unconstitutional, just a terrible negotiating position and also not binding on his successors.

[NHSparky]

Need I say more....