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Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« on: July 03, 2009, 02:55:35 PM »

July 1, 2009 at 12:33 pm
by: Allison Bricker

HOUSTON, TEXAS - The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF) agents are in the midst of  fanning out across Texas in order to conduct house by house investigations into what the agency deems numerous  “suspicious” firearms transactions and as a means to combat “narco-terrorism” along the U.S. /Mexican border.

In fact, the “suspicious” transaction searches are so loosely defined, that BATF agents ended up questioning a Houston area pastor who previously purchased two handguns for target practice, which is then flippantly chalked up as “hard to believe”. Additionally, interagency cooperation between the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and the BATF have led to  warrantless airplane surveillance of vehicles along the border.

After speaking to five offices within the agencies and being told by several agents they felt “uncomfortable” with my line of questioning, Special Agent, Public Information Officer Perot of the BATF, indicated that aerial surveillance does not require a warrant due to it taking place with the “public sphere” thereby meaning individuals should have no expectation of privacy.

perhaps even more alarming to Constitutionalists and civil libertarians than an “eye in the sky” with carte blanche authority to surveil, is the fact that the door to door firearms checks come at the behest of a foreign government. In 2008 alone, the Mexican government requested the BATF track down the original owner of 7,500 firearms used in drug crimes at American taxpayer expense.

    “Ever turning up the heat on cartels, our law enforcement and military partners in the government of Mexico have been working more closely with the ATF by sharing information and intelligence,”

    Kenneth Melson
    Acting Director
    BATF

Moreover, federal agents lament the tedious difficulty in conducting door to door firearm checks due to a current federal law prohibiting the use of a centralized database for gun owners. Alternatively, Mr. Eric Pratt of “Gun Owners of America” believes that a centralized database would only end up further infringing upon the inherent rights of law abiding gun owners. He goes on to state that criminals will still develop and expand avenues in order to arm themselves regardless of a behemoth centralized registry, just as they have after each previous “needed” addition to the nation’s gun laws. Further, by his analysis this is merely another attempt by federal authorities to scapegoat lawful gun owners when the crux of the issue is really one of border control, or lack thereof.

Source(s): Laredo, Texas Field Office of the DEA •  Houston Field Division of the BATF •  Houston Chronicle “Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time” published July 1, 2009 • Gun Owners of America


http://smargus.com/2009/07/federal-agents-conducting-house-by-house-gun-checks/
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 06:15:54 PM »
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 06:20:13 PM »
And so it starts. I wonder who is going to stop them when they target the wrong person?
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 09:40:00 PM »
Why does he need the face mask? At night, I imagine I'd confuse him for a regular ol' intruder, as opposed to the government kind.

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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 09:46:56 PM »
This is why I have a secret underground manufacturing facility, clandestine sources of supply for parts and materials, and ... ummm, never mind.... 
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2009, 06:53:32 AM »
Molon Labe, ****ers.
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 08:06:43 AM »
I don't see how any of this could stand-up in court, which means that even if they found stolen full-auto machine guns in a house bursting with coke and a couple of dead hookers it would all be excluded as evidence.
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2009, 10:56:48 AM »
Why does he need the face mask? At night, I imagine I'd confuse him for a regular ol' intruder, as opposed to the government kind.

Because he is either industrial strength, super-butt ugly, or he has no face....

I'm wondering how he is seeing thru this thing.  The edges of the eye holes are IN his eyes....
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 01:34:47 PM »
This should be huge news, I have seen it nowhere. weird

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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2009, 01:58:35 PM »
This should be huge news, I have seen it nowhere. weird
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 01:59:26 PM »
I don't see how any of this could stand-up in court, which means that even if they found stolen full-auto machine guns in a house bursting with coke and a couple of dead hookers it would all be excluded as evidence.

It's not as simple as you would think, there is a maze of exceptions and special circumstances that can come into play to make evidence admissible despite various problems.  The only way you really win as an accused person with the justice system is to stay the Hell away from it.
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 04:13:36 PM »
Just remember...

They wear body armor, so aim for the head.
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 05:12:20 PM »
Just remember...

They wear body armor, so aim for the head.
They also come in numbers intended to be overwhelming and would probably enter from multiple points.

NET RESULT: You're dead, the guns are confiscated and the MSM plays a propaganda coup, congress uses it to hurt the rest of us.


My guess is: a number of states have recently asserted 10th Amendment rights specifically centering on 2nd Amendment issues for guns that do not cross state lines. Texas went so far as to pass a law not only claiming 10th A. sovereignty over guns matters but also requiring the state AG to defend Texans brought to trial on federal charges if the weapons never crossed state lines.

I wonder if this is Obama's idea of firing the first shot in the legal battle. He could have easily sent the DEA and BATF to any other border state. Arizona would be far more politically concilliatory. This was either short-sighted or deliberately provocative (it's hard to tell with this bunch) especially in light of the recent Heller decision.
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Re: Federal Agents Conducting House by House Gun Checks
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 08:42:36 PM »
They also come in numbers intended to be overwhelming and would probably enter from multiple points.

NET RESULT: You're dead, the guns are confiscated and the MSM plays a propaganda coup, congress uses it to hurt the rest of us.


My guess is: a number of states have recently asserted 10th Amendment rights specifically centering on 2nd Amendment issues for guns that do not cross state lines. Texas went so far as to pass a law not only claiming 10th A. sovereignty over guns matters but also requiring the state AG to defend Texans brought to trial on federal charges if the weapons never crossed state lines.

I wonder if this is Obama's idea of firing the first shot in the legal battle. He could have easily sent the DEA and BATF to any other border state. Arizona would be far more politically concilliatory. This was either short-sighted or deliberately provocative (it's hard to tell with this bunch) especially in light of the recent Heller decision.

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