primitive afraid of police

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5949730

Oh my.

Given the nature of primitives, this is no surprise.

Maraya1969  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 12:45 AM
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I have 3 counts of aggravated assault on my police record. 

This happened 13 years ago. I was their landlord.

Their uncle was the former chief of police.

The arresting officer was their cousin, (small town)

They harassed me endlessly.

One of them broke my nose in "multiple" places after picking me up from a lawn chair and throwing me around a bit. I filed charges but she never was indicted.

The weapon was a bottler of pepper spray for animals that contained .35% capsasin.. The arresting officer told the judge that I was carrying 35% pepper spray which was above the legal limit for capsasin. It was because of this that the charges were upped to aggravated instead of simple assault, (I believe).

All three sued me, my mother, (the owner of the apartments) and the apartment company.

I only paid $350 for my attorney because I did not think that it would go beyond municipal court.

Several years after; the woman's, (the one who broke my nose) attorney told my new stepfather who was a client also that she made a living out of suing people. I believe to this day that they purposely aggravated and scared me into spraying them with the pepper spray so they could collect on another "business insurance company"' money. I spent many nights staying at a friend's house because I was afraid to walk by their apartment on the way to my own in the night.

I could not handle going through a jury trial. I was so mentally sick I just wanted it to go away so I took the plea deal, (the dropped the 2 weapon, (pepper spray) and I plead to 3 counts of aggravated assault.

I moved to Florida right after if happened although I had to go back to NJ 3 times to face the judge. I was a mental mess and could not stop crying.

For a long time I would be afraid if I saw a police car even if it was on TV. I couldn't even watch Judge Judy. I think I had post traumatic stress disorder.

To this day I am afraid of the police.

That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

The Rita Hayworth primitive:

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 12:50 AM
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1. Do you have access to someone you could talk to? A professional who might be able to help you deal with all that you're experiencing?

I hope it goes well for you..............

Maraya1969  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 01:11 AM
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3. Thank you very much. I just updated the post to say that it all happened 13 years ago and I have had therapy since then. I'm not afraid of Judge Judy anymore.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 01:33 AM
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5. May I ask a question?

I'll just go ahead and ask.

Why did you post that?

Home run for the Rita Hayworth primitive; good question, excellent question.

Maraya1969  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #5
 
6. Because of some people's belief that because Michael Jackson is guilty of child molestation because he paid off that kid. I want people to know things are not always as black and white as they may seem.

I was an easy target because of my connection to a business that had money and 3 people took advantage of that.

Hannah Bell  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 03:56 AM
Response to Reply #6
 
8. i've seen similar things happen to people (not as extreme as yours, more in work
situations) & i agree with you.

people will pay just to make things go away. people will walk away from things legitimately theirs because they can't deal with conflict or controversy, too.

Fire1  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
 
12. "Paying someone off is an admission of guilt." If it's true for one, it's true for everybody!

Botany  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 01:09 AM
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2. Sounds like you have a good case of getting your record expunged ......

..... contact the state bar association of where this happened or a maybe Rutger's College of law and see what they say. Although your guilty plea might be a sticking point.

I wish you the best!

Maraya1969  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #2
 
4. Thanks Botany. I've thought about doing this and I may someday.

cabluedem (871 posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 03:42 AM
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7. You should be afraid of the police. Most are thugs with guns and badges.

Oh my:

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 05:31 AM
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9. This is why I never, ever trust cops. Any cops.

You've got to treat them like dangerous wild animals when you encounter one - play nice, hope it doesn't decide that you're prey, because if it does, you're ****ed.

You're playing Russian Roulette every time you have to interact with one - one day, you might get the bad one that decides to **** your entire life just for fun.

You have to treat them as thugs with badges. Because so many of them are.

**** the pigs!

The army of Wal-Mart primitive:

armyowalgreens  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 05:41 AM
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10. Seriously? come on man...

"**** the pigs!"

I can understand having a healthy fear of authority. But you don't have to "treat them as thugs with badges."

What a bunch of cop hating bullshit.

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 06:50 AM
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11. There are too many bad cops out there.

The latest outrage:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/28/747810/-Bre... -(Update-x6)

Fort Worth cops raid a gay bar, arresting several patrons, putting one in the hospital with a fractured skull and a brain bleed, on the 40th anniversary of Stonewall. And yeah, judging by the eyewitness reports, this was definitely an anti-gay hate crime on the part of the police.

****ing pigs...

michreject  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 06:15 PM
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13. This has me confused

I only paid $350 for my attorney because I did not think that it would go beyond municipal court.

After it became more serious, your attorney didn't discuss further financial liabilities with you?

It sounds like you got the legal representation you paid for.

The bobbling primitive, who was gone for a while, and who's now back:

bobbolink  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-29-09 06:21 PM
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14. "It sounds like you got the legal representation you paid for." You're all heart.
 
It's heartwarming to know "progressives" believe in justice for them that gots $$$$$

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun 29th 2009, 06:22 PM
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WARNING!
Do Not Read This If You
Moral, Ethical Or
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Hurting (Or Even Killing)
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Attacks You, Your Wife
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[GOBUCKS]

I think the DUmmies are very rational in their fear of the police.
When you have a stash in your sock, every cop is a threat.

That must be the first squawk from dirty, smelly old DUmmy bobbolink in months.
They must have wi-fi under the bridge now.

[Carl]

Good Lord the stuff they dream up.

The whole stupid tale of woe to make a case for Jackson?
Jeez idol worshipper.....get a grip and a life.

[AllosaursRus]

One of them broke my nose in "multiple" places after picking me up from a lawn chair and throwing me around a bit. I filed charges but she never was indicted.

I could not handle going through a jury trial. I was so mentally sick I just wanted it to go away so I took the plea deal, (the dropped the 2 weapon, (pepper spray) and I plead to 3 counts of aggravated assault.

Hmmmmmmmmm.......DUmmies lie, they lie all the time!

I'll lay odds, this DUmbass pepper sprayed a renter and had to pay the price. Now She/He/It is looking for sympathy.

I'm not afraid of Judge Judy anymore

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

[AllosaursRus]

cabluedem (871 posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 03:42 AM
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7. You should be afraid of the police. Most are thugs with guns and badges.

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-29-09 05:31 AM
Response to Original message
 
9. This is why I never, ever trust cops. Any cops.

You've got to treat them like dangerous wild animals when you encounter one - play nice, hope it doesn't decide that you're prey, because if it does, you're ****ed.

You're playing Russian Roulette every time you have to interact with one - one day, you might get the bad one that decides to **** your entire life just for fun.

You have to treat them as thugs with badges. Because so many of them are.

**** the pigs!

I work with Cops continuosly! You people need to go thru what they do! They should get a medal for the excrement they have to go thru dealing with pukes like you on a daily basis!

I couldn't be a Cop! I'd kick your ass and show what a real thug and asshole could be! I'm not restricted to your supposed "victim" mentality, Asshats! If you fail to show up after my boss bails your worthless butt outa jail, I can pull you out thru the wing window!!

I hope all you lurking cowards read this and take it over to your cess pool where y'all are used to eatin' shit!

**** the piggs indeed!

edited to add comments. wasn't done ranting!

[Vagabond]

Let's say there is any truth in the DUmmie's story.  It got itself involved in a confrontation with three other individuals.  Then it's first defensive reaction was to go for pepper spray, which doesn't always work.

Please DUmmies, remember these rules.  If you can walk away, do that.  If not, run.  If you can't do either, try to talk them out of it.  If they won't listen and they make it physical first, make your first shot a damned good one, and pepper spray just isn't.  Even then you're still outnumbered which usually means you are gonna get your ass kicked anyway.