Author Topic: Army overthrows Honduras president in vote dispute (Read 7284 times)

Chris · « **on:** June 28, 2009, 03:50:04 PM »

TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - The Honduran army ousted and exiled leftist President Manuel Zelaya on Sunday in Central America's first military coup since the Cold War, triggered by his bid to make it legal to seek another term in office.

President Barack Obama and the European Union expressed deep concern after troops came for Zelaya, an ally of socialist Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, around dawn and took him away from his residence. He was whisked away to Costa Rica.

Zelaya, who took office in 2006 and is limited by the constitution to a four-year term that ends in early 2010, had angered the army, courts and Congress by pushing for an unofficial public vote on Sunday to gauge support for his plan to hold a November referendum on allowing presidential re-election.

Speaking on Venezuelan state television, Chavez -- who has long championed the left in Latin America -- said he had put his troops on alert over the Honduran coup and would do everything necessary to abort the coup against his close ally.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE55R0US20090628

Mr Mannn · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2009, 04:06:13 PM »

Obama is deeply concerned. Sure he is.
Let recap what happened.

1) The Honduran constitution limited the prez to specified terms in office and then he was out.
2) the Prez wanted more terms in office. So like all good lefties ignored the constitution and decided to hold a special election so he could have his way.
3) the Honduran supreme court said NO. The Military said NO. The Honduran congress said NO.
4) The Commie/leftist pres liberated the ballots from the election commision and stored them in his home.
5) then the Prez fired the commander of the military for saying NO. The Commander ignored him
6) the military had enough of this lawlessness, and kicked the Prezidente's butt outa the country

The only mistake I see is the military, their actions were flawless, except they didn't KILL the lefty threat. The Prez will be back to stir up trouble.

Hugo is threatening war. I believe him because he has been using a false American threat as a pretense to build up for an invasion of his neighbors for years.

Obamasssah is upset because he is seeing what could happen to him in a few years. Lefties are ALL alike.

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2009, 05:46:44 PM »

Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 28, 2009, 04:06:13 PM

Obama is deeply concerned. Sure he is.
Let recap what happened.

1) The Honduran constitution limited the prez to specified terms in office and then he was out.
2) the Prez wanted more terms in office. So like all good lefties ignored the constitution and decided to hold a special election so he could have his way.
3) the Honduran supreme court said NO. The Military said NO. The Honduran congress said NO.
4) The Commie/leftist pres liberated the ballots from the election commision and stored them in his home.
5) then the Prez fired the commander of the military for saying NO. The Commander ignored him
6) the military had enough of this lawlessness, and kicked the Prezidente's butt outa the country

The only mistake I see is the military, their actions were flawless, except they didn't KILL the lefty threat. The Prez will be back to stir up trouble.

Hugo is threatening war. I believe him because he has been using a false American threat as a pretense to build up for an invasion of his neighbors for years.

Obamasssah is upset because he is seeing what could happen to him in a few years. Lefties are ALL alike.

Obama and socialist Europe, "OH MY! One of "us" has been ousted......without U.S. involvement. This could mean people really don't want socialism."

thundley4 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2009, 05:49:59 PM »

Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 28, 2009, 05:46:44 PM

Obama and socialist Europe, "OH MY! One of "us" has been ousted......without U.S. involvement. This could mean people really don't want socialism."

Not a chance that they'll think that. They'll just blame it on the right wing minority using force to overcome the "will of the people".

The Village Idiot · « **Reply #4 on:** June 28, 2009, 06:42:00 PM »

I'm on the side that Hugo Chaves is not on.

thundley4 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:26:09 PM »

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WSJ Update: Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of Honduras President

By Jay Solomon, Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Manuel Zelaya's ouster, said a senior U.S. official. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Barack Obama wouldn't support any nondemocratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

"We had some indication that a move against Mr. Zelaya was afoot," said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. "We made it clear it was something we didn't support."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

"We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue," Clinton said in a statement.

Link

This administration needs to get their stories straight. The two statements in bold are add odds with each other.

Mr Mannn · « **Reply #6 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:29:12 PM »

Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of Honduras President
Just goes to show that the nations know Lord O is all talk and no action.

Airwolf · « **Reply #7 on:** June 28, 2009, 08:40:17 PM »

I see this as a big plus. They got rid of a lefty and we had nothing to do with it so the DUmmies can't blame Bush or Cheney for this.

Chris · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:57:04 PM »

This news obviously means its time for some good old America-bashing from the DUmp...

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:00 PM
Original message

After the fascist coup in Honduras, can anyone STILL defend the School of the Americas?   Updated at 8:54 PM

Since our military trained those Honduran fascists, can we now all agree that the School should be closed forever?

It's time for us to stop training reactionary killers.

"bipartisanship" and "looking tough" are never worth the loss of innocent lives.

billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:02 PM
Response to Original message

1. The school that launched a hundred Abu Ghraibs.

Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. The coup was by people who want Honduras to be right-wing forever.   Updated at 8:54 PM

It's only antidemocratic reactionaries who wanted Zelaya overthrown. And they couldn't have done it without the Army.

P.S., no Supreme Court anywhere in the world has the right to overthrow a democratic government.

Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. I'm sure Cubans wish they had term limits.

Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-28-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. The U.S. term limits were imposed by Republicans

They were meant to make sure we never had another FDR.

We've been permanently pushed to the right as a result.

And Zelaya wasn't a nutjob or undemocratic.

He was having a referendum. How is THAT undemocratic? It's undemocratic to let the people decide this?

Now that the coup's in place, the right-wing status quo will be locked in place in Honduras forever. How can you be good with that?

Forced turnover in office means there's no instutitional memory, which means the right always has the upper hand. It means politics like Newt Gingrich gave us. It would've meant Ron Dellums being forced out of Congress decades earlier, which would only have benefited the rich. Term limits are never good for the people. That's why Republicans like them.

How can you defend anything Newt Gingrich would do?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8501156

The Village Idiot · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:25:00 PM »

Ken Burch?

any relation to Ben?

Chris · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:30:04 PM »

I've wondered that... I never got an answer.

USA4ME · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:41:02 AM »

The Hondurian military took matters into control without first consulting the primitives. How dare they!

Poor primitives.

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JohnnyReb · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:00:26 AM »

Quote from: USA4ME on June 29, 2009, 07:41:02 AM

The Hondurian military took matters into control without first consulting the primitives. How dare they!

Poor primitives.

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O nose.....seriesly?.......................

dutch508 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:06:05 AM »

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Forced turnover in office means there's no instutitional memory, which means the right always has the upper hand. It means politics like Newt Gingrich gave us. It would've meant Ron Dellums being forced out of Congress decades earlier, which would only have benefited the rich. Term limits are never good for the people. That's why Republicans like them.

How can you defend anything Newt Gingrich would do?

Now, read that for a second. Let the attempt to link it to something completely different just pass by.

What ol kenny is saying is that our system doesn't work. Regardless of elections and Obama being in office now- it doesn't work. The only way in ken's mind that there will be...uh...freedom, I guess, is if there is only one party- the Leftists, in power, unchallenged and eternal.

So, you can imagine in 2012, or God forbid, 2016 when barry comes up for third term and the congress, run by the left introduces no term limits for president. The Supreme Court, by then packed with leftists, agrees and ACORN (or whatever they are calling themselves) sweeps a new 30 million voters into the rolls and POOF!...

That is what ken and his friends are really saying.

NHSparky · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:25:46 AM »

Amazing how when people who are fighting for democracy and freedom suffer, he has nothing to say, but when people who wish to oppress others are ousted, he's on that like white on rice.

Telling, indeed.

Karin · « **Reply #15 on:** June 29, 2009, 09:45:10 AM »

Yep, Sparky, and the blogosphere is quite abuzz with that today.

That Ken Burch is a sickening primitive. I've not run into him before.

Ptarmigan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 29, 2009, 11:50:48 AM »

Good for Honduras. President Manuel Zelaya was beyond his term limits. The left is still riled up about Salvador Allende being overthrown in 1973.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #17 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:07:36 PM »

Kudos to the Hondo army for supporting and defending its Constitution.

Tess Anderson · « **Reply #18 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:58:52 PM »

Quote from: NHSparky on June 29, 2009, 08:25:46 AM

Amazing how when people who are fighting for democracy and freedom suffer, he has nothing to say, but when people who wish to oppress others are ousted, he's on that like white on rice.

Telling, indeed.

I just read Barack Hussein Obama's latest statement on the Honduras situation - he sure doesn't care if he's meddling in this one. He probably really wants to see how it's done.

Wineslob · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2009, 02:12:35 PM »

Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 29, 2009, 01:07:36 PM

Kudos to the Hondo army for supporting and defending its Constitution.

+1

Bluesuiter-Retired · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2009, 06:03:15 AM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE55S5J220090629?sp=true

"the dear leader" is siding with castro and chavez and NOT with the honduran people!

You don't see those who were opposed to the DEPOSED dictator in honduras protesting, just those who were dependant upon the dictator for their lives and livelihood.

SSG Snuggle Bunny · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2009, 08:51:23 AM »

Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 28, 2009, 04:06:13 PM

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Hugo is threatening war. I believe him because he has been using a false American threat as a pretense to build up for an invasion of his neighbors for years.

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I think Hugo would have preferred to take on Columbia as Hondo was already in his back pocket; this is big a setback for the rancid little clown.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2009, 09:39:47 AM »

War is kind of an empty threat given the relative geographical locations of Honduras and Venezuela.

Peter3_1 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2009, 09:54:37 AM »

Remember, Obama is a follower of Frank Marshall Davis the Communist, and Saul Alinsky, another Communist. Why expect anything different? Hows that "hope and change" comming?

SSG Snuggle Bunny · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2009, 10:02:06 AM »

Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 30, 2009, 09:39:47 AM

War is kind of an empty threat given the relative geographical locations of Honduras and Venezuela.

Iran v Lebanon?

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Author Topic: Army overthrows Honduras president in vote dispute (Read 7284 times)