http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x458292Oh my.
Now, the Assembly of God isn't my religion, myself leaning other directions, but I've never met a person from that denomination less than decent and civilized.
Around here in the Sandhills of Nebraska, they're hard-working honest modest unassuming people; a verbal contract with any one of them is just as good as a paper contract.
Admirable people; the salt of the earth.
RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-23-09 01:49 AM
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The Gospel and the Gosselins-Evangelicals and the making of Jon & Kate Plus Eight
If you have recently stood in line at the grocery store and glanced at the tabloid covers, chances are you have seen the faces of reality TV stars Jon and Kate Gosselin. Jon and Kate are stars of the wildly popular TLC show Jon & Kate Plus Eight, which documents the life of this Pennsylvania couple as they raise their eight children, 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets. Until recently, Jon and Kate were celebrated as models of wholesome family values. Sure, they bickered a lot, but they were committed to staying together for the long haul. Indeed, last season featured them renewing their wedding vows on the beach in Hawaii. Such commitment endeared them to the watching public and made them TLC's most profitable commodity.
Of all the viewers who followed the Gosselins, evangelicals were among the most faithful. blahblahblahblah.....
The subway cat can't handle decent and civilized people, however.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-23-09 02:32 AM
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4. Assemblies of God are a ****ing CULT
I was involved with them,they messed up my life. I HATE AoG.
This ASSHOLE is whom I was involved with,this huge ass from Manassas had as when I was there, 11 kids.He is a liar,a manipulating con man.Evil.He may have more kids than that now.
His wife is being bred to death.
https://www.christinaction.com/index.cfm
See below about A group member, Leo,and the seek god website to see just how sick and interconnected they ARE.
And this is what one christian writer found out about AoG.After supplied with the associates names from denny's book...and group.
http://www.seekgod.ca/toast2.htm
**** you AoG!! You evil pieces of SHIT!!!
Of the many past guest speakers to Manassas AOG, were members of the National Religious Broadcasters. Leo Godzich and his wife, Molly, are "certified marriage specialists," who have held a marriage seminar at Nestor's Manassas Assembly of God.
Leo Godzich is one of many men and women pastors at Phoenix First Assembly of God, <http://phoenixfirst.org/Church/pastors/Biographies.htm > which is lead by CNP's Tommy Barnett. Barnett is a member of David Yonggi Cho's board among others. From the Phoenix AOG, "...TIME Magazine has cited Phoenix First Assembly of God as the sixth largest church in the United Stated of any denomination, listing average weekend attendance in excess of 10,000. As the largest congregation in the Assemblies of God, the Church is looked to for direction and innovative leadership by the more than 5,000 pastors and church leaders who attend the annual Pastors' School at Phoenix First Assembly..." http://www.phoenixfirst.org/about us.html>
Others suggest Barnett's church is 3rd largest in the US.
Godzich heads NAME >http://www.nameonline.net/--National Association of Marriage Enhancement-- which promotes the Covenant Marriage.
http://www.nameonline.net/issues/cmm.htm
According to Godzich, "The concept of covenant is the basis of the American legal system and that there is a higher law than human law. This belief was common at the founding of the nation, Godzich said. The Covenant Marriage Movement is what Godzich called a "grassroots popular movement" comprised of 30 national organizations. More than 70,000 Covenant Marriage Movement cards have been distributed nationwide and 100,000 are being printed.
www.lakecityreporter.com/lifestyle/religion/stories/000... >
So, I actually read through all that, including the links.
I don't see what the subway cat's bitch is.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-23-09 02:41 AM
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5. More on AoG
Other influences or friends of Denny Nissley include:
Mark King -- pastor in rural Pennsylvania that miraculously healed his crushed leg in a church service in a barn (healed and staples miraculously removed).
"Then came Hank, a guy from the church in the barn who invited himself to move into my home and live with me so he could disciple me, since I was too young in the Lord to know how to live the Christian life. I don't know where I'd be today had Hank not obeyed God and laid down his life to train me." (p.7)
Pastor Jim Brankel -- took him under his arm and helped him get credentialed with Assemblies of God
Jonathan Gainsbrugh -- a street preacher friend taught him how to work in conjunction with the local church and equip others to carry the message of the gospel. Serves as the Growth and Evangelism consultant with the Northern California-Nevada District in the Assemblies of God. He travels nationally conducting local church, sectional, statewide, and regional conferences.
Pastor Gary Grogan -- "helped me understand the art of interpersonal relationships and set a godly example of servanthood." Gary Grogan is Senior Pastor of Urbana Assembly of God (UAG) church since June 1988. UAG has an aggressive vision and outreach to students at the University of Illinois..."
http://www.urbanaassembly.org/staff_pastor_gary_and_bon...
Pastor Wendell Choy >http://ohanafellowship.com/wsn49BB.html -Pastor Wendell is licensed by the International Churches of the Foursquare Gospel, and is the founding pastor of Calvary Church of the Islands, in Kailua. He served as senior pastor there, for 15 years. His theological background comes from Fuller Seminary in Pasadena, and Calvary Church of the Coastlands, in Torrance, California, where he interned and served as associate pastor for eight years. "Pastor Wendell and Patti feel that the Lord has led them to Huntington Beach, California to impact all of Orange County"http://ohanafellowship.com/wsn49BB.html >
He is pastor of Ohana Christian Fellowship is a ministry of: The International Churches of the Foursquare Gospel, and was formerly called Beach Cities Fellowship. http://ohanafellowship.com /> Foursquare Gospel theology was founded by Aimee Semple McPherson. See: Sins of the Father:Charles Parham & A Little Identity Crisis.
Rob Schenck -- according to Denny, "president of the National Clergy Council. Rob has opened many doors for me to minister on Capitol Hill. He has made it possible for me to minister to Senators and Representatives alike."
Rob Schenck serves on the THE INSTITUTE ON RELIGION AND PUBLIC POLICY board of advisors. >http://www.religionandpolicy.org/boa-schenck.htm
From that site:
Rob Schenck is the president of the National Clergy Council. He is an author, lecturer, and the founder of the Ten Commandments Project, an effort to reintroduce the American people to the great words of Sinai. Prior to his present position, Mr. Schenck served as minister of missions and evangelism for the New Covenant Tabernacle Church in Kenmore, NY, and as an itinerant evangelist.
Mr. Schenck directs Operation Save Our Nation, in Washington. Previous to this assignment he founded the National Community Church in Washington; Operation Serve, a Christian humanitarian relief organization; and co-founded Hearts for the Homeless, an advocacy organization for underprivileged men, women and children. Mr. Schenck is also the president of the National Pro-life Religious Council.
Mr. Schenck is the author of The Ten Words That Will Change a Nation--The Ten Commandments, published in 1999 by Albury Publishing. He also is the editor of the three-volume Constitutions of American Denominations, published by William S. Hein Lawbook Publishers. He is a member of the editorial board of Culture Wars magazine, and he is a member of the American Academy of Ministry. He appears regularly in the national secular and Christian media.
Mr. Schenck trained for the ministry at Elim Bible Institute and Berean College. He received his M.A. in Christian Ministry at Faith Evangelical Lutheran Seminary
National Pro-Life Religious Council, Inc. (NPRC), mentioned above, is an ecumenical 'Christian' pro-life coalition. NPRC currently has members working within pro-life groups associated with the following denominations/churches: Conservative Congregational, Episcopalian, Evangelical, Lutheran, Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist, United Church of Christ, and United Methodist. http://www.nprcouncil.org/newsletters/nprc2000winter.ht... >
From a critical review of Schenck:
Rob Schenck launches church
Anti-abortion activist Rob Schenck is starting "an activist congregation" in Washington, DC. His newly formed church, the National Community Church, begins regular Sunday services at the Washington Court Hotel in mid-September.
Schenck, an ordained Assemblies of God minister, says the purpose of his church is to keep the national media informed on "the ways in which certain public policies violate biblical principles." The establishment of the church in the nation's capital is part of a two-pronged project called "Operation Save Our Nation." The other part of the project is aimed at evangelizing congressional staffers. "Very often," said Schenck, "it's the young staffers who make policy, the elected officials merely give their imprimatur."
Schenck and Operation Rescue's Randall Terry were arrested in 1992 when they tried to shove a fetus in the face of Bill Clinton during the Democratic National Convention in New York. http://www.ifas.org/fw/9409/update.html >
And I wonder how many GYN doctors do these assholes wanna kill?
Oh my.
I read through all of that, including the links.
I still dunno what the subway cat's bitch is about.
