top primitive sees a book discussed on the boob-tube

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5843207

Oh my.

Another one of these "death of the Republican party" bonfires.

A dime a dozen, they are.

Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-13-09 06:10 PM
Original message
 
GOP-Leaning Majority Seen Fading in U.S. 

There has been much chatter about who now speaks for the Republican Party and whether the GOP has a message or agenda to combat President Obama's popularity. Those questions are important to the party's future, but the most serious problem remains the deeper demographic and political forces at work in the country.

For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with presidential results from the last two decades. From whatever angle of their approach -- age, race, economic status, geography -- they have come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are pressing the Republicans into minority status.

Republicans are still capable of winning individual elections, but until they find a way to reverse or at least minimize these broader changes in the country, their chances of returning to majority status will be severely reduced.

The American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institute convened a stellar cast on Friday to review what has been learned since last November. The panel included Robert Lang of Virginia Tech, Ruy Teixeira of the Center for American Progress, William Frey of the Brookings Institution, Bill Bishop, a Texas writer and author of "The Big Sort," Scott Keeter of the Pew Research, and Ronald Brownstein of Atlantic Media. They presented a wealth of data about what happened in 2008 and offered a series of conclusions that would alarm any Republican hopeful of a quick turnaround in the party's fortunes.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Ho-hum, all this gloom-and-doom stuff.  Seen it all before.

Pedro Picasso:

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-13-09 06:21 PM
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2. This demographic shift was known about BEFORE the 2000 "election."

There was at least one book written about, but I can't recall the name of the book that was discussed quite a bit back then, when it first came out. I have long surmised that this irreversible demographic shift was a much of the reason the neo-cons and Republicans went to such extraordinary lengths to steal the election(s); they knew it was their last chance to ever be in the positions of power they'd long been accustomed to, through which they'd systematically been looting America for years. They had eight years, that's it, then they were outcasts. Just as anybody with "nothing left to lose," they went for it all. And you know what? They pretty much got it. They won't have keys to the vault anymore, at least not directly. But the legacy of Bush's endless wars and no-bid contracts to run them will help keep the GOP and neocons fat cats rolling in our cash for generations to come. Heck, they're even STILL working to further reduce the Estate Tax (which their Ministry of Fear Communications Dept advised them to call the "Death Tax"), to help make sure their stolen wealth lives on and on, untaxed.

As we've known for a long time, that's how Pedro Picasso gets his literary knowledge; not from actually reading anything, but from watching media celebrities talk about a book on televison.

bluestateguy  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-13-09 07:55 PM
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7. I want a one party country. No apologies. 

Just like during James Monroe's presidency. The Era of Good Feeling.

Speck Tater (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-13-09 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
 
8. The longer one party stays in the majority, no matter WHICH party, the more corrupt it becomes.

Be careful what you wish for.

bluestateguy  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-13-09 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
 
9. Not a priority for me

If we get universal health care, a better educational system, a sound economy and a sound foreign policy again, then you know what, I'm willing to look the other way if a few politicians are dipping their hands into the cookie jar.

One has to commend the blue primitive for his straightforward honesty.

And here's the mountain man primitive, whose social security inevitably is going to be tampered with, by the 0bamareich:

ThomWV  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-14-09 07:37 AM
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11. I call HORSESHIT on the title - There never was a "GPO-leaning majority"

This nation hasn't had a GPO leaning majority since Reagan was elected - they may act like they are the majority but they are not and have not been in dam near 30 years. Just because they make the most noise doesn't indicated that there are more of them.

[Carl]

The lies they tell themselves.

[Lord Undies]

Are the 18%ers blathering on again about their "obvious" majority?  How silly! 

The normal state of things is this country is vastly conservative.  It a fluke and out-of-normal for liberals to win anything on a national level.  And we all know that any abnormality is very temporary and normality always returns. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Didn't a poll just come out in the past few days that revealed completely the opposite?  Something from Gallup, I think.

[Lord Undies]

Didn't a poll just come out in the past few days that revealed completely the opposite?  Something from Gallup, I think.

Indeed, but it seems in the Land of Goons & DUmmies, Gallup is a puppet of FOX News and the Bush "Cobble".  They aren't to be trusted when delivering bad news.   

[franksolich]

Didn't a poll just come out in the past few days that revealed completely the opposite?  Something from Gallup, I think.

Yeah, and it was big news, but the primitives ignored it entirely.

However, as both a Republican and a conservative, something about this bothers me.

There seems to be some sort of dichotomy, an unbridgeable chasm, between being "Republican" and "conservative."  For some strange reason, many people enthusiastic about identifying themselves as "conservative" aren't too happy about identifying themselves as "Republican" too.

As a professional Republican, this bothers me much.

I myself am so middle of the road (check the ideological thing in the DUmping Ground here) that I get run over by traffic going both directions, but I don't like this idea of "me-tooism" in the Republican party, something Republicans have been burdened with since circa 1940.  Democrat lite, one might say.

Conservatism is a lively, vibrant, energizing force in American politics, but that same force doesn't seem to exist with the Republican party.  Being a middler, anyone with "(R)" after his last name is a friend of mine, whether conservative, moderate, or liberal, but I would just as soon those more conservative than I am take over the Republican party.

It's a quandary; conservatism is flourishing and prospering, but the vehicle that can carry them into dominance, the Republican party, seems rather decrepit and non-going at the moment.

I'm confident however that things will work out.

[Lord Undies]

Yeah, and it was big news, but the primitives ignored it entirely.

Not entirely.  I read a thread yesterday on DU about the Gallup poll.  The thread was predictable and unremarkable.

[whiffleball]

And here's the mountain man primitive, whose social security inevitably is going to be tampered with, by the 0bamareich:

Poor thing!  He's been rejected for disability:  http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8851485&mesg_id=8851485

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Sun Tsu said that if you knew your enemy as yourself you have nothing to fear in any coming battle.

As Frank says:

Liberals lie; liberals lie all the time.

But I add:

DUmmies lie to themselves

[Wineslob]

Sun Tsu said that if you knew your enemy as yourself you have nothing to fear in any coming battle.

As Frank says:

Liberals lie; liberals lie all the time.

But I add:

DUmmies lie to themselves, and believe it.

Fixed!

[Chris_]

Speck Tater (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-13-09 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
 
8. The longer one party stays in the majority, no matter WHICH party, the more corrupt it becomes.

Be careful what you wish for

And as corrupt as the dims are now just picture them after a few more years in power.

[The Village Idiot]

The Dems are about as corrupt as possible. They sell senate seats and steal corporations

[franksolich]

Poor thing!  He's been rejected for disability:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8851485&mesg_id=8851485

One has to be careful here.  I made this precise exact same mistake myself, and let it go for nearly a year before I figured it out.

The mountain man primitive, the "ThomWVA" primitive, and the "ThomCat" primitive are two different primitives, and about two generations separated in age.

The mountain man primitive is corruptedly and decadently materialistic; all he cares about is his social security retirement checks, free medical care, and the price of diesel fuel.  The mountain man primitive has a big ass-kicking fuel-guzzling pick-up truck, which he uses to tow a Vanderbilt-sized yacht on a trailer.

The mountain man primitive, the first in his family tree to get a college education (ostensibly economics), alleges to be a devout atheist, but he's lying.  To the mountain man primitive, John is God the Father, Robert is Jesus the Christ, and Vast Teddy is the Holy Ghost.

The "ThomCat" primitive is about 40 years younger than the mountain man primitive; a swarthy little guy from New York City or something.  He's so self-centered I never paid much attention to him.

As mentioned earlier, for about a year, I confused the two.

[whiffleball]

One has to be careful here.  I made this precise exact same mistake myself, and let it go for nearly a year before I figured it out.

The mountain man primitive, the "ThomWVA" primitive, and the "ThomCat" primitive are two different primitives, and about two generations separated in age.

The mountain man primitive is corruptedly and decadently materialistic; all he cares about is his social security retirement checks, free medical care, and the price of diesel fuel.  The mountain man primitive has a big ass-kicking fuel-guzzling pick-up truck, which he uses to tow a Vanderbilt-sized yacht on a trailer.

The mountain man primitive, the first in his family tree to get a college education (ostensibly economics), alleges to be a devout atheist, but he's lying.  To the mountain man primitive, John is God the Father, Robert is Jesus the Christ, and Vast Teddy is the Holy Ghost.

The "ThomCat" primitive is about 40 years younger than the mountain man primitive; a swarthy little guy from New York City or something.  He's so self-centered I never paid much attention to him.

As mentioned earlier, for about a year, I confused the two.

Obviously, I'm still confused.  There's also 11 Bravo and 11Bravo there that's difficult to distinguish.  Thanks.

[USA4ME]

Primitives don't understand timing.  If you have someone emerge as a leader at this point, then in 3 years everyone would be sick of him/her.  About a year from now is when you'll start to see some cohesion in the party towards a national referendum on Dear Leader's efforts.  Primitives want the next Newt to trot out the next Contract With America now so they can have 18 months to jump on it.  That's now how it works.  They don't understand timing.

.

[tuolumnejim]

Poor thing!  He's been rejected for disability:  http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8851485&mesg_id=8851485

Hell I was turned down when I applied for disabilty, my lawyer told me to file for it. But it was granted to me on my first appeal, and all I did was supply them with all of my medical records.
Hire the handicap were more fun to watch!