Onward Christian Terrorists; Fighting Evil in the Obama Era

[MrsSmith]

rpannier  + posts)       Sun Jun-14-09 08:16 PM
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Onward Christian Terrorists; Fighting Evil in the Obama Era 
 Could it be sheer coincidence that the murderous attack on the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC on Wednesday by James W. von Brunn, an anti-Semitic Christian terrorist, occurred scarcely a week after an attack on a Wichita health clinic that performed abortions? Perhaps. Though it is also possible that these incidents, and a host of other threats in recent months, are the violent fringe of a new wave of religiously-motivated violence that might rival America’s Christian terrorism of the 1990s.

Oh-oh, someone forgot to do their homework.  von Brunn was an anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-government terrorist.  (We're still correlating which DUmpMonkey has gone missing...)

If, as it seems, Scott Roeder was indeed the culprit behind the ghastly killing of Dr. George Tiller last week in a Wichita church, the attack raises the possibility of the beginning of a new wave of Christian terrorism in the Obama era. Ruby Ridge and other incidents in the 1990s culminated with the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing, an event so horrendous that it seems to have sobered the radicalism of many Christian militia members. Then came the eight-year reign of President George W. Bush who voiced his support for anti-abortion activists and gave the impression that they had a friend in the White House. The violence abated.

Oops...Scott Roeder was an Old Testament "religious" nut...which does not make him a Christian either.  So far, you're 2 for 2.  One more strike and you're out!!

All this may now be changing. A new president is vilified in the right-wing press not only as pro-abortion but as a demonic figure. The image is one of desperation: that the moral authority of the country has been taken captive by an evil enemy. This has the effect of giving moral license to an image of cosmic war, goading the violent urges of some of the most extreme of the Christian activists, whose world view is a melange of millenarianism and anti-abortion adventurism.

Right-wing press...like maybe the Southern Baptist press?  Oldham said the January issue of SBC Life, a newspaper sent free of charge to all Southern Baptist ministers, carried an open letter from Richard Land, president of the SBC Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, congratulating Barack Obama for being elected America's first black president.

"I hope you know that there are tens of millions of Americans who did not vote for you who are still very, very pleased that an African American has been elected president of the United States," Land wrote to the then president-elect.

"The fact that this could happen in a country with as tragic a racial past as America's says something noble and fine about the American experiment and the glorious 'opportunity democracy' it has spawned," Land said. "After much struggle, we as a nation have chosen together to live up to the promises of our founding document, the Declaration of Independence: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.'"

Land pledged to pray that Obama would apply biblical values while making policy decisions. "We will also pray that God will bless you with safety, health and all spiritual blessings," he said.


Yep, vilified and demonized alright.     I count that as 3 strikes, YOU'RE OUT!!

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According to Bray, Americans live in a situation “comparable to Nazi Germany,” a state of hidden warfare, as the comforts of modern society have lulled the populace into apathy. Bray was convinced that a dramatic event, such as economic collapse or social chaos would reveal the demonic role of the government, and people would have “the strength and the zeal to take up arms” in a revolutionary struggle. What he envisioned as the outcome of that struggle was the establishment of a new moral order in America, one based on biblical law and a spiritual, rather than a secular, social compact.

Until this new moral order is established, Bray said, he and others like him who are aware of what is going on and have the moral courage to resist it are compelled to take action. According to Bray, Christianity gave him the right to defend innocent “unborn children,” even by use of force, whether it involves “destroying the facilities that they are regularly killed in, or taking the life of one who is murdering them.” By the latter, Bray meant killing doctors and other clinical staff involved in performing abortions.

link:
http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/religiousright/1550/onward_christian_terrorists%3B_fighting_evil_in_the_obama_era

So, this Army of God whacko defines all Christians.  Well, I'm glad to know that the DUmp is finally willing to take responsibility for ELF, PETA, Code Pink, Sheehan and their favorite Democrat, Fred Phelps.  What's good for the goose is good for the gandar. 

[BlueStateSaint]

IIRC, one of his targets (in one of his previous screeds) was Fox News Channel.

Yup, a real right-winger there.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

You act as if these DUmmies are ignorant of the counter-argument. I'll guaratee you they are not.

They need to shout these lies as loud as they can to cocoon their personal fantasies of being the noble crusaders battling the greater evil.

[The Night Owl]

Oh-oh, someone forgot to do their homework.  von Brunn was an anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-government terrorist.  (We're still correlating which DUmpMonkey has gone missing...)

From the website of James Von Brunn...

October 17, 1983

Dear Erik,

Your Aunt Alyce has told me that you are a strong, healthy six year old boy and that you miss your father, James von Brunn, who has been held by federal authorities now for some time. We all hope that he will soon now be released, for in the opinion of those of us who understand the malfunctioning of certain elements of our once near perfect government he has committed no crime. But quite the contrary, he has taken very courageous and patriotic actions to try to alert the U.S. citizen to the real organization of the Federal Reserve System and its great danger to the survival of our once White Christian constitutional republic, the cornerstone of Western Civilization.

It is my conviction that James von Brunn deserves the gratitude and assistance of every White Christian citizen of these United States. And I believe he would have this support were it not for the cabal which controls not only the Federal Reserve System but also the nationally effective communications media.

...

Erik, although your father and your Aunt Alyce are now suffering legal or illegal decisions which we hope can be successfully challenged, when you grow older and become a man you will realize that your father has upheld the basic element of White Christian Civilization, to wit: every intelligent White man should live and strive to provide a better future for his children and grandchildren. That is what Jim von Brunn is striving to do for you .

Sincerely,

Jno. G. Crommelin

http://web.archive.org/web/20021207152523/www.holywesternempire.org/crommelin.html

And, there is the name of the website... Holy Western Empire.

Oops...Scott Roeder was an Old Testament "religious" nut...which does not make him a Christian either.  So far, you're 2 for 2.  One more strike and you're out!!

You know, Jesus of Nazareth was himself a bit of an Old Testament enthusiast... so to speak.

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. - Matthew 5:17-48 (King James Version)

[NHSparky]

Okay, TNO--how do you explain the "Troofer" bit?

Oh, and DUmmies?  Want to fight evil?  Start by offing yourselves.

[Happy Fun Ball]

CHRISTIANITY and the HOLOCAUST
by James W. von Brunn
http://www.antichrist.net/vonbrunn.html (the text was removed)

 As duped Aryan sheep begin to understand the "Holocaust" they also begin to better understand Christianity.  Both have similar origins.  Both have identical objectives.

Saul of Tarsus, after helping friends stone to death a disciple of Jesus Christ, set forth toward Damascus.  As he trudged the dusty road a blinding, excruciating light suddenly crashed his brain.  The world whirled into a crimson vortex.  He heard his own scream, far away.  Then there was quiet.  When he awoke he was lying on the road.  He looked up.  A man in a white cloak was standing there his hands outstretched.  His hands bore deep scars.  Saul trembled with fright.  Then Jesus smiled, pulling Saul upright, saying, "Fear not, Saul of Tarsus, I come to you from our Father."  It was a miracle.

Saul and Jesus earnestly, fervently, joyously conversed with one another.  Arm in arm they tarried there.  Jesus told Saul he was his own.  Jesus was loving, loving, forgiving, forgiving.  Saul became his disciple there and then -- struck by the Holy Spirit.  Finally, following Saul's vows of fidelity, love, and obedience, the visitation ended when, before Saul's wondering awe-struck eyes, Jesus to Heaven in a halo did rise.  It was a miracle.

We are told that this extra-sensory experience, somewhat like an epileptic fit, suddenly changed the hateful, murderer Saul (later, St.  Paul) from a hater of Jesus into a Jesus lover.  Really?

Saul, ten years younger, had not met The Master vis a vis before Jesus' crucifixion.  Had they met earlier Saul probably would have crushed Christ's head with a rock.  Saul, and most Israelis, detested Jesus and his blasphemous ideology almost as much as they detested Romans; more even than they detested Greeks, Babylonians, Assyrians, Canaanites, Egyptians, Persians, et al.  In truth, as bigoted Judeophobes know, God's "Chosen People" hated their God's only Son.

Matthew emphatically states that Israelis so hated Jesus Christ that THEY crucified him (Pope John Paul II, Zionist, said that Matthew is wrong!  What's that?  "The Word of God" is wrong?).

ACTUALLY, on the road to Damascus -- brooding about Rome, relishing the bloody image of the disciple he had stoned to death; sweaty, sore footed, thinking of the blasphemous ravings of the Nazarene -- Saul had an incredible, earthshaking IDEA.  A light-bulb inspiration.  He, Saul -- a Roman citizen -- suddenly realized how he could destroy Rome!  Saul trembled uncontrollably with fear and joy.  He would simply promulgate the insane teachings of Jesus!  What better way to destroy a Nation -- any Nation -- than to undermine her hubris; her gods, ethics, mores, history, her gene-pool -- in short, Saul would DESTROY ROMAN CULTURE.  Then, as night follows day, with her foundations rotted, the Roman Empire would FALL.  Saul decided to begin the HOAX by inventing a miraculous encounter on the road to Damascus with the reincarnated Jesus the Christ!

Toward that end -- no different than Hollywood script-writers today -- Saul created a bogus a la Spielberg docu-drama stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation -- a scenario appealing to the superstitious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep -- he named his hoax "Christianity."

The New Testament was written in Greek.  Paul - who believed the World was flat, that Joshua made the sun stand still, and Jehovah spoke from a burning bush -- wrote one-third of it, perhaps more.  The events described in the 24 Books are often contradictory, fail the time-line, defy both archaeology's and nature's immutable laws, and are suicidal if practiced.


Nevertheless, the shamans bought it, taught it, and the illiterate public was coerced, brainwashed, threatened, tortured, murdered, and enthralled.  The Encyclopedia Britannica states that over 6,000 major redactions exist between the Septuagint (translation of Aramaic into Greek) and its St. James biblical translation.

The Gospels profess that only Christians may enter Yahweh's Kingdom of Heaven.  To qualify, among other demands, Christians must LOVE THEIR ENEMIES (Jews); give away their personal belongings; eschew knowledge; judge not, despise nature, abandon earthly pleasures, acknowledge that all YHWH's children are equal; and above all else worship YHWH, the jealous, wrathful, vengeful, unforgiving, genocidal, anthropomorphic tribal god (Jesus' father) created by Hebrews in their image and likeness.  Omnipotent, omniscient YHWH promises Hebrews that they alone shall inherit the earth, that it is commendable to steal from Gentiles, better yet -- kill them.  Whereas Gentiles, if they fail to worship YHWH, are transported straight to Hell.  And it is written, "A little child shall lead them."

These dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, DESTROYED the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!

The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION ... CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES.

"Christianity" destroyed Roman Civilization.  The "Holocaust" Religion is destroying Western Civilization.  The Aryan gene-pool dies, "unwept, unhonored and unsung."

Some Christian, huh?

[dutch508]

No one on the left is going to pay any attention tot he anti-christian rants this retard spouted. It conflicts with their chosen message- that von brunn is a X-tain murderer and linked to other far-right extremeist christian haters.

[AllosaursRus]

America’s Christian terrorism of the 1990s.

Okay, what did I miss? How come you's guys didn't let me in on it?

[Duke Nukum]

From the website of James Von Brunn...

http://web.archive.org/web/20021207152523/www.holywesternempire.org/crommelin.html

And, there is the name of the website... Holy Western Empire.

You know, Jesus of Nazareth was himself a bit of an Old Testament enthusiast... so to speak.

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. - Matthew 5:17-48 (King James Version)

Somehow I don't think Jesus was a Jew-hating white supremacist.  Most American Marxists, communists, KKKers, and socialists call themselves liberal democrats but what they espouse has nothing to do with Classical Liberalism or democratic principles.  And many people who call themselves progressives eschew science and technology (unless they can pervert them for some venal political point) and are actually progress-hating Luddites.  Both modern liberals and progressives are America-haters so Jesus at least was sane, he didn't hate his own people, in fact, Jesus didn't hate anyone.

That is a good test, if you see people hating and they call themselves "Christian," whatever they may be they aren't practicing what Jesus taught.

Just like a good test for enlightenment comes from the Buddha, if you find you are still suffering then you aren't enlightened.

[MrsSmith]

From the website of James Von Brunn...

http://web.archive.org/web/20021207152523/www.holywesternempire.org/crommelin.html

And, there is the name of the website... Holy Western Empire.

You know, Jesus of Nazareth was himself a bit of an Old Testament enthusiast... so to speak.

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. - Matthew 5:17-48 (King James Version)

You know Jesus is not a Christian, right?     He also isn't an anti-Christian, anti-government white supremist. 

Whatever von Brunn is, he is NOT a Christian.  The sword of God is the Word, not a weapon.  You really need to do your homework before you post stupid crap.

[The Village Idiot]

They are still calling him a christian??

Wow, they are so far behind reality

[MrsSmith]

They are still calling him a christian??

Wow, they are so far behind reality

reality?  reality????  We are talking the DUmp here.   

[Duke Nukum]

They are still calling him a christian??

Wow, they are so far behind reality

They still call themselves loving, peaceful, non-judgmental hippies so whadaya expect?

[Airwolf]

Nice to see the Foul Owl still hasn't learned reading and comprehension