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Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« on: June 03, 2009, 06:34:25 AM »
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Obama Says U.S. Could Be Seen as a Muslim Country, Too
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HAHN, Germany — As President Obama prepared to leave Washington to fly to the Middle East, he conducted several television and radio interviews at the White House to frame the goals for a five-day trip, including the highly-anticipated speech Thursday at Cairo University in Egypt.

In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” He sought to downplay the expectations of the speech, but he said he hoped the address would raise awareness about Muslims.

“Now, I think it’s very important to understand that one speech is not going to solve all the problems in the Middle East,” Mr. Obama said. “And so I think expectations should be somewhat modest.”

He previewed several themes and objectives for the speech, which aides said the president intended to tinker with — and rewrite — aboard Air Force One during his 12-hour flight to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

“What I want to do is to create a better dialogue so that the Muslim world understands more effectively how the United States, but also how the West thinks about many of these difficult issues like terrorism, like democracy, to discuss the framework for what’s happened in Iraq and Afghanistan and our outreach to Iran, and also how we view the prospects for peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians,” Mr. Obama said.

The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 06:53:07 AM »
What a brainless dickehead.  I can't believe people calling themselves Christians voted for this guy!

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 07:21:15 AM »
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 07:29:51 AM »
What a brainless dickehead.  I can't believe people calling themselves Christians voted for this guy!

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 07:38:09 AM »
He's safe, so he can come out now.  Nice going, America.  You thought about who you'd vote for on American Idol more than for president, and it's showing BIG TIME.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 07:57:48 AM »
Video of interview. It has French dubbing, but you can still hear it at around 2:25.

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 09:44:11 AM »
What next? Will he turn the field of blue on the American flag to green?

I'm waiting to see how much the MSM can spike the story. They aren't what they used to be so this may gush around the seams. If it does Obama could see his polls drop below 50% for a crack like this.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 10:10:03 AM »
And as expected, the DUmmies don't seem to be in an uproar over it. In fact, they're going on about how the "Freepers" and "Christianists" (whatever that means) are reacting.

They have a conniption whenever someone even hints that the US is a Christian nation. They've been trying to get God out of just about everything for decades now. "Separation of church and state!" "Separation of church and state!" "No prayer in school!" "Nativity scenes are offensive!" Blah blah blah...

Yet, when someone calls the US a Muslim nation...nooooo problem.

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 10:51:53 AM »
According to the CIA World Factbook, the USA ranks about 56th overall among nations for total population of Muslims as residents. Maybe they are misleading the Dem leadership yet again?  :rotf:
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 11:30:34 AM »
And as expected, the DUmmies don't seem to be in an uproar over it. In fact, they're going on about how the "Freepers" and "Christianists" (whatever that means) are reacting.

They have a conniption whenever someone even hints that the US is a Christian nation. They've been trying to get God out of just about everything for decades now. "Separation of church and state!" "Separation of church and state!" "No prayer in school!" "Nativity scenes are offensive!" Blah blah blah...

Yet, when someone calls the US a Muslim nation...nooooo problem.
Does that mean we can stuff their fat, saggy-titted skanks inside burqas now?

And their women too?
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 11:48:29 AM »
Uh, America was a Christian nation, not a Muslim nation. Obama is not going to change Muslim extremist's views about America. In fact I heard on the radio, that Al-Qaeda's second in command said that it was propaganda from Obama.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 12:31:13 PM »
I'm kind of having fun watching 0bama try to be all things to all people. That's gotta be exhausting.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 12:40:52 PM »
Isn't this the same jackass that said this was NOT a Christian nation?  ::)
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 12:50:36 PM »
THE 51ST THRU 57TH State's will be represented by a Crescent Moon and Star added to the Stars and Stripes, by Executive Order.  :evillaugh:  Dear Obama Asdmin::bird:

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 03:46:46 PM »
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if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world

Facts:

According to the CIA World Fact Book, if we did have 7 million Muslims, which is close, That would mean we have more Muslims than the following countries, many are Muslim majority countries:

Countries with more than 70% Muslim populations are in bold

Tajikistan 6,368,938
Côte d'Ivoire 6,304,693 - 7,205,364
Libya 5,855,807
Jordan 5,750,533
Chad 5,041,678
Philippines 4,553,864

All of the following have less than or equal to 4-6 million Muslims

Philippines
Turkmenistan
France
Mozambique
Kyrgyzstan
Kenya
Sierra Leone
Uganda
Cameroon
Ghana
West Bank and Gaza
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Mauritania
Oman
United Arab Emirates
Lebanon
Kosovo
Kuwait
Gambia
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 04:02:50 PM »
I'm kind of having fun watching 0bama try to be all things to all people. That's gotta be exhausting.

Not nearly as exhausting as the job of all the apologists running to every discussion board they can find to tell us what he really ment to say.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 04:04:12 PM »
Facts:

According to the CIA World Fact Book, if we did have 7 million Muslims, which is close, That would mean we have more Muslims than the following countries, many are Muslim majority countries:

Countries with more than 70% Muslim populations are in bold

Tajikistan 6,368,938
Côte d'Ivoire 6,304,693 - 7,205,364
Libya 5,855,807
Jordan 5,750,533
Chad 5,041,678
Philippines 4,553,864

All of the following have less than or equal to 4-6 million Muslims

Philippines
Turkmenistan
France
Mozambique
Kyrgyzstan
Kenya
Sierra Leone
Uganda
Cameroon
Ghana
West Bank and Gaza
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Mauritania
Oman
United Arab Emirates
Lebanon
Kosovo
Kuwait
Gambia

"7 million Muslims in the US" is not even close. It is off in precision at about 400%. If you take the estimated population of the US from this page, which is 307,212,123 residents, and multiply by .06%, which is also the number of estimated Muslims living in this country from the same page, the total population of Muslims within this country is 1,843,273. That number would put the ranking among all nations at 56th overall for total Muslims within a nation. Either he is purposely inflating the numbers for effect in his speeches or his writers are absolutely ignorant in making simple, mathematical calculations.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 04:04:41 PM »
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Facts:

Fact we are a Christian nation founded on Christian beliefs and principals.

What seperates us from the rest of the world is our tolerance and acceptance of people from other religions.

The same can't be said for most of the countries listed above.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 04:05:30 PM »
"7 million Muslims in the US" is not even close. It is off in precision at about 500%. If you take the estimated population of the US from this page, which is 307,212,123 residents, and multiply by .06%, which is also the number of estimated Muslims living in this country from the same page, the total population of Muslims within this country is 1,843,273. That number would put the ranking among all nations at 56th overall for total Muslims within a nation. Either he is purposely inflating the numbers for effect in his speeches or his writers are absolutely ignorant in making simple, mathematical calculations.

How about all of the above.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 04:27:46 PM »
I'll be willing to stipulate your 7M Muslims in the US, I'll even spot you another 500K to make the math easier.
OK, 7.5M out of 300M (your number for total population of the US) is, anyone?  2.5%
While there may be a large number of individuals, the overall proportion is small.

To further illustrate, if China had 30M Muslims, where would that put them on the list of nations with most Muslim residents?  I'm guessing around the top 10.  That would also be 2.5% of their population.  Based on that, would you call China a Muslim nation?

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2009, 04:43:33 PM »
I'll be willing to stipulate your 7M Muslims in the US, I'll even spot you another 500K to make the math easier.
OK, 7.5M out of 300M (your number for total population of the US) is, anyone?  2.5%
While there may be a large number of individuals, the overall proportion is small.

To further illustrate, if China had 30M Muslims, where would that put them on the list of nations with most Muslim residents?  I'm guessing around the top 10.  That would also be 2.5% of their population.  Based on that, would you call China a Muslim nation?

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2009, 06:40:17 AM »
Facts:

According to the CIA World Fact Book, if we did have 7 million Muslims, which is close, That would mean we have more Muslims than the following countries, many are Muslim majority countries:

Countries with more than 70% Muslim populations are in bold

Tajikistan 6,368,938
Côte d'Ivoire 6,304,693 - 7,205,364
Libya 5,855,807
Jordan 5,750,533
Chad 5,041,678
Philippines 4,553,864

All of the following have less than or equal to 4-6 million Muslims

Philippines
Turkmenistan
France
Mozambique
Kyrgyzstan
Kenya
Sierra Leone
Uganda
Cameroon
Ghana
West Bank and Gaza
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Mauritania
Oman
United Arab Emirates
Lebanon
Kosovo
Kuwait
Gambia

Sir, I've read your posts, and up until now have refrained from commenting, but now I feel I must.  You, sir, are an idiot.  One doesn't rate muslim nations by number, but by percentage.  At least any normal thinking person would, which I guess would leave you out.

Your whole concern about the soldiers that were killed by the terroritst representative of Islam is that it not shed a poor light on the muslim community.  That's it.  You don't give a rats ass about the men who died, or all the men who died so that you can practice whatever "faith" you want to practice in this country.  So to that, sir, I say, go walk off a cliff.

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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2009, 08:41:02 AM »
One doesn't rate muslim nations by number, but by percentage. 

One may as well call Chicago a Polish city, since it has more people of Polish descent in it than any other city in the world except for Warsaw. The whole procedure is very misleading.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2009, 08:57:37 AM »
One may as well call Chicago a Polish city, since it has more people of Polish descent in it than any other city in the world except for Warsaw. The whole procedure is very misleading.

Ditto with Westminster (Orange County) and Saigon.
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Re: Obama calls US a Muslim nation
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 09:45:41 AM »
Sir, I've read your posts, and up until now have refrained from commenting, but now I feel I must.  You, sir, are an idiot.  One doesn't rate muslim nations by number, but by percentage.  At least any normal thinking person would, which I guess would leave you out.

Your whole concern about the soldiers that were killed by the terroritst representative of Islam is that it not shed a poor light on the muslim community.  That's it.  You don't give a rats ass about the men who died, or all the men who died so that you can practice whatever "faith" you want to practice in this country.  So to that, sir, I say, go walk off a cliff.
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