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Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« on: May 28, 2009, 04:38:26 PM »

Major Gen. Antonio Taguba, here in 2004, has told a British newspaper that photos of Iraqi prisoner abuse depict "every indecency," including apparent rape. He said he supports President Barack Obama's decision not to release the photos.

Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
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(May 28) - The Pentagon on Thursday denied a British newspaper report that photographs of Iraqi prisoner abuse, whose release U.S. President Barack Obama wants to block, include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Daily Telegraph newspaper had shown "an inability to get the facts right".

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If this guy is lying...he should be charged with Treason.

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 04:45:28 PM »
If it is true, then those that participated should be punished,( which I thought they already have been).  If he is lying, then I agree he should be tried for treason.  This almost sounds like a lefty attempt to force the disclosure of the pictures that are real, just to prove they are not as bad as rape.

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 06:14:46 PM »
Yep this smear attempt is designed to force the disclosure of the photos.

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 06:25:33 PM »
Yep this smear attempt is designed to force the disclosure of the photos.
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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 06:44:41 PM »
oh crap.

The details in the article is as bad, if not worse than any photos.

Damage done, it can and will be used against us. Even if the photos are released, they would just say those were destroyed to save face.

The USA admits we used waterboarding. Torture, which was laughable from the memo's, was the controversy over waterboarding.

There is no controversy over hetro and/or homosexual rape and sodomy.
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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 07:08:20 PM »
Let's get to the juicy stuff:  Do any of the photos show a severed rag head held up for the camera to enjoy?  I could not care less about ANY other crap.  I want to know if the USA cut off heads. 

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 07:22:37 AM »
That news organization has completely mischaracterized the images," Whitman told reporters. "None of the photos in question depict the images that are described in that article."

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 10:20:45 AM »
Let's get to the juicy stuff:  Do any of the photos show a severed rag head held up for the camera to enjoy?  I could not care less about ANY other crap.  I want to know if the USA cut off heads. 

Correct. Anything else is completely superfluous and worthy only of ridicule at the whining that ensues from the dipshits who are quick to point a finger, but slow to recognize the sacrifice made in their worthless names.
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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 10:49:33 AM »
Either the retired General is lying or a not-so-retired General is lying.

As someone in uniform this is very distressing and demoralizing. I feel like a little kid thrust into the middle of a nasty divorce and being asked which parent I'd rather live with. I know that whatever is--or is not--in those photos has no bearing on me as a professional but dogdammit this actually has me more upset than Abu Ghraib precisely for the fact that somebody IS LYING.

If Gen. Taguba is lying his slander is beyond the pale. It is so heinous and malicious as to call his soul into question. This act has no value accept to hurt the US military and that it should be the act of a former general (yeah, I know they're human too...@#$%ing humans) rather than some crank reporter adds tremendous weight to this crime.

If the Pentagon is lying I'd rather they just come clean and prosecute the offenders...including the liars.

Worse, my Commander in Cheese is simply going to vote "present" on the issue so long as the Olbermans of the world use Taguba to buldgeon Bush & Co. because it deflects from the shit-storm he spawned with his crass and cowardly PR stunt. Never in my life have I doubted the value of the uniform that I wear...until today.
oh crap.

The details in the article is as bad, if not worse than any photos.

Damage done, it can and will be used against us. Even if the photos are released, they would just say those were destroyed to save face.

The USA admits we used waterboarding. Torture, which was laughable from the memo's, was the controversy over waterboarding.

There is no controversy over hetro and/or homosexual rape and sodomy.

I noticed--and I looked--the article did not say whether or not the abuse was wholly conducted by US troops, only that the US had the pics. I say I looked because I remember a few years ago we turned Abu Ghraib over to the Iraqis and they were running a show almost as bad as anything Saddam had put-up. When the original story broke the US forced reform as much as it could and I was curious if the pics were from that episode. One photo allegedly depicts a US soldier committing a rape; another is an American-Egyptian translator. The rest? We are left to guess/infer.
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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 01:07:13 PM »
 :bs:If the Major General had this knowledge, why did he not bring evidence or a written complaint before the JAG as well as the office of the Inspector General? There is no support for crime in the Armed Forces of the Untied States of America, in war or against civilians. Cases in point, the recent conviction of the Army trooper in the sexual assault of an Iraqi girl and the subsequent murder of her and her family. Let's not also forget the trial of the Marines based on Murtha's verbal assault of those Marines without one shred of evidence. If a torture and rape happened and was photographed, let's get all the participants and try them, including the front line and superior officers who swept this under the rug.

My gut feeling is that the event never happened, but is part of the plan by the ACLU to get the photos into the NY Times. :censored:

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Re: Pentagon Denies Photos Show Rape
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 05:23:13 PM »

My gut feeling is that the event never happened, but is part of the plan by the ACLU to get the photos into the NY Times. :censored:
But the ACLU didn't force this General to make the statement.  Someone is lying...question is who...and SB made a good observation....if these acts did in fact happen...we don't know who was responsible..it could very well have been the Iraqiis.