Author Topic: Israel: We reserve operational freedom on Iran (Read 5417 times)

Mr Mannn · « **on:** May 21, 2009, 11:46:24 AM »

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212432949&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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Israel will not let Iran attain nuclear weapons capability, said Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's National Security Adviser Uzi Arad on Thursday, adding that the US was aware of Israel's security needs and knew that it would not necessarily receive forewarning of an Israeli strike against Teheran's nuclear facilities.

Israel maintains its liberty to operate against Iran, Arad told Army Radio. During this week's visit to Washington, Arad said, the prime minister "clarified that Israel reserves operational freedom, and several of the most senior figures in the administration said 'of course.'"
--snip--more at the link

Wow. Netanyahu learned something important in his meeting the Lord Obama. He learned he could not trust the president.
This means he know the US will not cooperate, and that the IDF will go it alone.
Obama's trustworthiness has pushed the doomsday clock ahead by a minute.

God Bless Israel.

SSG Snuggle Bunny · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2009, 11:52:50 AM »

I posted this yesterday in other thread on this forum:

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Israel knows it needs to coordinate its strategy on Iran with other nations and that attacking Teheran's nuclear facilities would mean "big trouble," CIA director Leon Panetta said on Wednesday.

Acknowledging that he had recently traveled to Israel to meet Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and warn him against a strike on Iran, the CIA chief told Global Viewpoint that he "felt assured" Israel would not break ranks with Washington's strategy.

"Yes," he said, "the Israelis are obviously concerned about Iran and focused on it. But [Netanyahu] understands that if Israel goes it alone, it will mean big trouble. He knows that for the sake of Israeli security, they have to work together with others."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212421175&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

In that thread I asked if the admin was:

A) pulling the same trick it pulled with Caterpillar, healthcare, etc: speaking for the other party in the hope that they won't want to en=mbarrass the admin by later contradicting them, thus forcing their compliance against their own interest

B) providing itself political cover for abandoning Israel should they hit Iran, i.e. "We were promised and they LIED!"

It very much appears that Panetta/the admin was arse-barking.

djones520 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2009, 01:12:12 PM »

I wonder how Gator is taking the news.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2009, 01:23:52 PM »

This also provides political cover to Obama, if at the expense of Israel afterward, because it gives him plausible deniability on foreknowledge of any strike.

Zathras · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2009, 01:40:23 PM »

Quote from: djones520 on May 21, 2009, 01:12:12 PM

I wonder how Gator is taking the news.

As bad as possible I hope.

MarshallLaw · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2009, 01:35:17 PM »

Quote from: djones520 on May 21, 2009, 01:12:12 PM

I wonder how Gator is taking the news.

With massive doses of Haldol?

5412 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:12:21 AM »

Quote from: Mr Mannn on May 21, 2009, 11:46:24 AM

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212432949&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Wow. Netanyahu learned something important in his meeting the Lord Obama. He learned he could not trust the president.
This means he know the US will not cooperate, and that the IDF will go it alone.
Obama's trustworthiness has pushed the doomsday clock ahead by a minute.

God Bless Israel.

Hi,

Obama has shown ZERO leadership ability. Confront him with anything that requires testorone and he wilts like a flower in the hot Texas sun. I guess we all knew Israel would defend themselves, and who can blame them. BO has no damn clue how to deal with Iran, Korea or any other real nuclear threats to our nation.

I held out hope that he would be supportive of Israel and even help covertly if necessary to take out the nuclear facility in Iran. Instead he hangs their butts out to dry. Israel will do what it has to in order to protect themselves, will bear the brunt of world opinion, incur the wrath of the muslim world.....all while Lord BO sits back and says, blame them not the US.

Bottom line to me is this is just another example of the absolute WIMP we have in the white house. Heck he couldn't even get the orders right to take out the pirates, 3 somali kids held the US Navy at bay because our clown has no clue as to the long term implication of showing weakness to the world. Putin and the Chinese have to be laughing their tails off.

regards,
5412

gcruse · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2009, 10:54:18 AM »

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Wow. Netanyahu learned something important in his meeting the Lord Obama. He learned he could not trust the president.
This means he know the US will not cooperate, and that the IDF will go it alone.
Obama's trustworthiness has pushed the doomsday clock ahead by a minute.

I love it, I love it, I love. And I'm goyem! It's too bad American Jews place Israel's survival like tenth place on their list of concerns. As the only democracy (save for Iraq, temporarily) in the ME, the west should be solidly behind her continued existence, if for that reason alone. The great shock is why only the US is, and how Obama is degrading that support without a peep from his Jewish constituents, who overwhelmingly voted for him.

Anti-Israel Judaism should be an oxymoron. It isn't.

5412 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:59:58 PM »

Quote from: gcruse on May 23, 2009, 10:54:18 AM

I love it, I love it, I love. And I'm goyem! It's too bad American Jews place Israel's survival like tenth place on their list of concerns. As the only democracy (save for Iraq, temporarily) in the ME, the west should be solidly behind her continued existence, if for that reason alone. The great shock is why only the US is, and how Obama is degrading that support without a peep from his Jewish constituents, who overwhelmingly voted for him.

Anti-Israel Judaism should be an oxymoron. It isn't.

Hi,

I have several Jewish friends and you are right about them being BO supporters....although they live in the Chicago area which would cause them to be democrats by the force of habit. I told them before the election that I cannot understand who anyone of the Jewish faith could possibly vote for Obama and the response I got was that they tend to vote democratic. In other words, do not bother me with the facts..... Well they got their change all right.

regards,
5412

gcruse · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:39:24 PM »

Quote from: 5412 on May 23, 2009, 01:59:58 PM

Hi,
In other words, do not bother me with the facts..... Well they got their change all right.

regards,
5412

You're absolutely right. Of course, when Tel Aviv is wiped out and Muslims occupy Jerusalem, they'll blame somebody else.

Daisy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:30:43 PM »

Quote from: 5412 on May 23, 2009, 01:59:58 PM

Hi,

I have several Jewish friends and you are right about them being BO supporters....although they live in the Chicago area which would cause them to be democrats by the force of habit. I told them before the election that I cannot understand who anyone of the Jewish faith could possibly vote for Obama and the response I got was that they tend to vote democratic. In other words, do not bother me with the facts..... Well they got their change all right.

regards,
5412

Daisy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:52:22 PM »

Quote from: gcruse on May 23, 2009, 10:54:18 AM

I love it, I love it, I love. And I'm goyem! It's too bad American Jews place Israel's survival like tenth place on their list of concerns. As the only democracy (save for Iraq, temporarily) in the ME, the west should be solidly behind her continued existence, if for that reason alone. The great shock is why only the US is, and how Obama is degrading that support without a peep from his Jewish constituents, who overwhelmingly voted for him.

Anti-Israel Judaism should be an oxymoron. It isn't.

My 1st post on CC , and this Jewish lass is pleased this is the subject.
Netanyahu now knows for sure what we've know all along: That Obama can not be trusted.

Obama will do everything he can to prevent Israel's bombing of Iran's Nuclear fascilities.
But will Obama allow his legacy be the POTUS who destroyed Israel??
Hang tough, Bibi.

(The tragedy of American Jews voting overwhelmingly for Obama is another subject for another day.).

thundley4 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:53:56 PM »

Netanyahu defies Obama on Iraeli settlement freeze

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JERUSALEM, May 24 (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday rebuffed U.S. calls for a full settlement freeze in the occupied West Bank and vowed not to accept limits on building of Jewish enclaves within Jerusalem.
Netanyahu's defiant stance set the stage for a possible showdown with U.S. President Barack Obama, who, in talks with the new Israeli prime minister in Washington last week, pressed for a halt to all settlement activity, including natural growth, as called for under a long-stalled peace "road map".
"The demand for a total stop to building is not something that can be justified and I don't think that anyone here at this table accepts it," Netanyahu told his cabinet, referring to Jewish settlements in the West Bank, according to an official.
Netanyahu said Israel had no plans to set up any new West Bank settlements. But he told Obama, according to the official, that his government "does not accept limitations on building" within what Israel defines as its capital, the Jerusalem municipality, an area that includes Arab East Jerusalem and parts of the West Bank captured in a 1967 Middle East war.
Palestinians want their own state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with its capital in Jerusalem. Settlement building in the city is a particularly sensitive issue for both sides.

0Bama is getting no respect from any world leaders. Extending a hand to most of the US enemies, will only make him look weak to both enemies and friends, therefore the friends of the US are not going to kowtow to the wishes of 0Bama.

Daisy · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2009, 02:00:12 PM »

Quote from: thundley4 on May 25, 2009, 01:53:56 PM

Netanyahu defies Obama on Iraeli settlement freeze

0Bama is getting no respect from any world leaders. Extending a hand to most of the US enemies, will only make him look weak to both enemies and friends, therefore the friends of the US are not going to kowtow to the wishes of 0Bama.

Well, we need SOMEONE to hang the drapes...

(That's not me on the avatar. I'll be there soon.)

MarshallLaw · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:21:27 AM »

Quote from: gcruse on May 23, 2009, 10:54:18 AM

I love it, I love it, I love. And I'm goyem!

Funny, you don't look goyem.

gcruse · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:24:53 PM »

Quote from: MarshallLaw on May 27, 2009, 11:21:27 AM

Funny, you don't look goyem.

Daisy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:41:46 PM »

Now THAT'S FUNNY... LOL

ReaganForRushmore · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2009, 06:10:35 PM »

Seriously, an Israeli attack on Iran and the subsequent fatal attack on Israel would set the Arab world back centuries. Iran would shut down the Straits of Hormuz. Any WMD attack by Iran or it's surrogates would destroy fellow Arab states of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iraq. All Arab states would be in major crisis, particularly Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Forget about the passive governments of all the "stans" of the former Soviet Union.....they will look at the West and the Soviet Union as enemies. The EU will look at their Arab minorities as dissent within and century old hatreds will rise. The world economy will cease to exist. China exploits the crisis and the US will balk. the UN does nothing. I see a bad moon rising.

Keep your powder dry.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2009, 08:40:49 AM »

Y'know, the Nork bomb may be a bigger threat to them than the potential for an Iranian weapon. While all their attention is focused on the possibility of Achmanutjob eventually getting a bomb at some point after a lot of investment in nuclear power, the Norks might just sell one to the Syrians or other sworn enemies with the cash to pay for it.

Mr Mannn · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2009, 10:55:27 AM »

6 months ago Newt mentioned this. He was on a talk show and was asked how long it would take for Iran to get the bomb. Other pannelists said a year, 6 months, and newt replied, "12 hours."
The host was shocked and asked Newt what he meant.
Newt shrugged, "That's how long it would take to fly a North Korean Nuke to Iran."

This is of course the real danger of allowing Rogue states access to the bomb. They will sell nukes to other rogue states.
Why does Hugo Chavez kiss Iranian a$$? He wants to buy a bomb.

Daisy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:31:59 PM »

Quote from: gcruse on May 27, 2009, 12:24:53 PM

Upon 2nd look you do look kinda goyish...heh.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:25:59 PM »

Quote from: Mr Mannn on May 28, 2009, 10:55:27 AM

6 months ago Newt mentioned this. He was on a talk show and was asked how long it would take for Iran to get the bomb. Other pannelists said a year, 6 months, and newt replied, "12 hours."
The host was shocked and asked Newt what he meant.
Newt shrugged, "That's how long it would take to fly a North Korean Nuke to Iran."

This is of course the real danger of allowing Rogue states access to the bomb. They will sell nukes to other rogue states.
Why does Hugo Chavez kiss Iranian a$$? He wants to buy a bomb.

I love Newt...he always hits the bullseye...it enrages the left.

Daisy · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »

Hillary now blasting Israel in no uncertain terms; proving she showed her true feelings when she kissed Arafat's wife.

So much to say but not now.... Grrrrrrrrr.

thundley4 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:46:43 PM »

Quote from: Daisy on May 28, 2009, 04:44:30 PM

Hillary now blasting Israel in no uncertain terms; proving she showed her true feelings when she kissed Arafat's wife.

So much to say but not now.... Grrrrrrrrr.

Yet many of her big donors in the senate race were Jewish groups, of course that might have been because of those pardons that Bill did for them.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2009, 07:31:27 PM »

Well folks, seems Israel will be breaking the US chains that binds her.....a nuke dropping on Iran is not a matter of if but when. Netanyu knows Obama, and the US by association, is no longer a reliable ally.

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Author Topic: Israel: We reserve operational freedom on Iran (Read 5417 times)