Author Topic: California special election live thread (Read 19158 times)

franksolich · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:26:21 PM »

Prop 1F says that state legislators can't get pay increases, unless the State budget is balanced. Concern had been expressed that it would work as an incentive to increase taxes, rather than as a punishment for unbalanced budgets.

Chris · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:27:06 PM »

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If passed, Proposition 1C would allow the state to borrow $5 billion from future lottery profits.

Proposition 1D would temporarily transfer money from the Children and Families health programs.

Proposition 1E focuses on mental health funding. That money would be transferred to the general fund.

Proposition 1F would freeze legislators' salaries in years of fiscal emergency.

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Prop 1A would require that all revenues and resources coming into the state would have to be identified as to whether they are one-time or ongoing. Theoretically, this provides a tool under which the legislature may choose to limit the expenditure of one-time money to one-time spending, which is a good idea.

If Prop 1B is approved, Prop 1A creates a new account in the Constitution called the Supplemental Education Payment Account, a supplemental rainy-day fund for the schools which will be used to pay down the monies owed to the schools caused by the current and past underfunding of Prop 98 requirements--about 9.3 billion dollars. A portion of the monies in excess of the cap created by 1A goes into this Fund.

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2009/05/essay_six_props.html

franksolich · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:27:48 PM »

15.3% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 643,845 36.6% 1,112,875 63.4%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 704,397 40.2% 1,047,726 59.8%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 676,730 38.7% 1,069,380 61.3%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 662,274 37.9% 1,081,796 62.1%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 651,056 37.5% 1,082,352 62.5%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,309,917 74.8% 442,081 25.2%

franksolich · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:29:16 PM »

No results in yet on congressional race.

franksolich · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:30:17 PM »

Quote from: Chris on May 19, 2009, 10:25:39 PM

According to the two guys on the radio, they're only expecting a 20% turnout.

The two guys on the radio were the spearhead of these measures.

Sort of like Howard Jarvis back in 1978, that taxpayer revolt.

franksolich · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:31:11 PM »

17.2% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 718,410 36.7% 1,238,234 63.3%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 784,342 40.2% 1,166,012 59.8%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 752,785 38.7% 1,192,218 61.3%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 738,806 38.0% 1,203,791 62.0%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 725,663 37.5% 1,204,795 62.5%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,462,916 75.0% 488,791 25.0%

Chris · « **Reply #31 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:34:12 PM »

Those guys on the radio are breaking out the Schnapps.

franksolich · « **Reply #32 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:34:49 PM »

Quote from: Chris on May 19, 2009, 10:34:12 PM

Those guys on the radio are breaking out the Schnapps.

As well they deserve to, Chris.

They started it.

thundley4 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »

They needed an option to cut the legislators salary to zero if they couldn't balance a budget without tax increases.

franksolich · « **Reply #34 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:36:24 PM »

No returns on congressional race yet.

Who was in the 32nd district before?

Mike220 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:37:24 PM »

Hilda Solis, currently Secretary of Union Relations... I mean Labor.

franksolich · « **Reply #36 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:37:58 PM »

Thanks, Mike, so it's a Democrat district?

franksolich · « **Reply #37 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:39:34 PM »

17.4% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 720,718 36.6% 1,243,221 63.4%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 786,907 40.1% 1,170,664 59.9%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 755,206 38.6% 1,197,058 61.4%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 741,339 38.0% 1,208,496 62.0%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 728,067 37.5% 1,209,639 62.5%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,495,079 76.4% 463,933 23.6%

Mike220 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:40:41 PM »

Quote from: franksolich on May 19, 2009, 10:37:58 PM

Thanks, Mike, so it's a Democrat district?

Yup. East Los Angeles area. Democrat since the mid '70s.

franksolich · « **Reply #39 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:42:47 PM »

Quote from: Mike220 on May 19, 2009, 10:40:41 PM

Yup. East Los Angeles area. Democrat since the mid '70s.

There's 12 candidates, 8 of them Democrats.

This is not a primary, but an election.

You suppose there's hope for any one of the three Republicans, with the Democrat vote being split so much?

franksolich · « **Reply #40 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:49:30 PM »

21.9% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 795,660 36.7% 1,370,175 63.3%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 868,520 40.2% 1,290,434 59.8%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 833,201 38.6% 1,320,393 61.4%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 818,621 38.0% 1,331,896 62.0%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 804,589 37.6% 1,333,190 62.4%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,649,495 76.4% 510,196 23.6%

franksolich · « **Reply #41 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:54:42 PM »

22.0% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 796,398 36.7% 1,371,621 63.3%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 869,325 40.2% 1,291,802 59.8%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 833,953 38.6% 1,321,812 61.4%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 819,325 38.0% 1,333,365 62.0%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 805,291 37.6% 1,334,658 62.4%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,651,198 76.4% 510,668 23.6%

Chris · « **Reply #42 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:55:20 PM »

Ah... the "Budget Stabilization Fund" are the new taxes.

Mike220 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:57:15 PM »

So far only San Fran County is the only one in the state that's currently "Yes" but it's close.

Mike220 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:58:01 PM »

Quote from: franksolich on May 19, 2009, 10:42:47 PM

There's 12 candidates, 8 of them Democrats.

This is not a primary, but an election.

You suppose there's hope for any one of the three Republicans, with the Democrat vote being split so much?

I suppose anything's possible. Pulling a Perot...

franksolich · « **Reply #45 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:58:26 PM »

Quote from: Mike220 on May 19, 2009, 10:57:15 PM

So far only San Fran County is the only one in the state that's currently "Yes" but it's close.

You know I'm blaming Doug's ex-wife for that.

franksolich · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2009, 10:59:29 PM »

22.3% now in.

N 1A "Rainy Day" Budget Stabilization Fund 800,681 36.7% 1,379,919 63.3%
N 1B Education Funding. Payment Plan. 874,043 40.2% 1,299,641 59.8%
N 1C Lottery Modernization Act 838,506 38.6% 1,329,802 61.4%
N 1D Children's Services Funding 823,853 38.0% 1,341,368 62.0%
N 1E Mental Health Funding 809,752 37.6% 1,342,707 62.4%
Y 1F Elected Officials Salaries 1,661,687 76.5% 512,803 23.5%

Celtic Rose · « **Reply #47 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:01:07 PM »

Quote from: Mike220 on May 19, 2009, 10:57:15 PM

So far only San Fran County is the only one in the state that's currently "Yes" but it's close.

That is some good news.

I got to the polling station at 7:30, and the attendants said I was the first person to come and vote. Most of my coworkers didn't even seem to realize that there was an election today.

franksolich · « **Reply #48 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:04:55 PM »

Arnold Schwartznegger must've suspected that.

Instead of spending the day out there in California, he spent the day with Pa Kettle in the White House.

franksolich · « **Reply #49 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:06:52 PM »

I wonder how the primitives on Skins's island are taking this.

I've got too many windows open here, so can't go over.

Anybody know?

Just a look-see, no thread needed posted here, to see how they're taking it.

News:

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