http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5609545Oh my.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 04:32 AM
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bullying makes kids psychotic
BEIJING, May 4 (Xinhuanet) -- Children who are constantly bullied are at greater risk for developing psychotic symptoms such as hallucinations or delusions as they hit adolescence.
British researchers said Monday children who were consistently victimized by their peers at ages 8 or 10 were twice as likely to have psychotic symptoms by the time they hit adolescence. That risk was even greater if the bullying was particularly chronic or severe.
Researcher Andrea Schreier, PhD, of Warwick Medical School at the University of Warwick in England, and colleagues said bullying -- especially when it is severe or chronic -- can have serious consequences for some children, and may even act as a trigger for people who are genetically predisposed to schizophrenia.
The study, published in the Archives of General Psychiatry, included more than 6,400 children in Bristol, England, who were evaluated annually from ages 7 to about 13.
This study is not bullshit,Because what was shown in that study,it happened to me. I was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic for years,because by the time I lost it,(around age 13)psychiatry itself was still in denial about the effects of trauma and bullying on people's mental health.The shrinks gave me ever increasing doses of anti-psychotic drugs of different types and none"worked".Because I was not really schizophrenic, I was traumatized bullied for years until I just cracked up,the "hallucinations" were alters.
It is amazing to me that people haven't figured out how abuse triggers mental illness and how being around abusive people and psychopaths authoritarian and narcissistic personality types actually harms people unfortunate enough to grow up or attend school and be around the toxic personality types.
Certain personality types, behaviors and abuses they do to others and the bystander effect,the just world theory and enabling all combine into a very crazy making mix for those targeted by bullies.
We need to do something with the toxic people in our midst, the abusers,the bullies, control freaks,assholes and fake'alpha' types.
They are who cause humanity to be so messed up.
The Inuit were onto something with the bullies/psychopaths in their midst. They would observe the person without a conscience, and one day the hunters would take this asshole on a hunting trip,push the tyrant bully into the ice and let him die there,and because they did not tolerate bullies in their culture their lives were more peaceful,and humane.Not perfect but BETTER off...without toxic bullies.
And interestingly primitive cultures have better outcomes from mental illness than"developed" nations.
Wonder why?
Psychopaths make up just 4% of the total U.S. population, but the damage and devastation they wreak is extreme and widespread.
Psychopaths, also known as sociopaths, comprise 20-25% of the prison population, but 50% of those who have committed serious crimes. However, the majority of psychopaths are not violent—most are users, scam artists and shady businesspeople. There is some evidence that psychopaths may be overrepresented in the fields of business, politics and entertainment.
Read about how eliminating bullies changed a culture in a babboon colony.
links omitted because they're pretty stupid
Oh, I dunno.
Seriously, bullies can be a problem; it's no laughing matter.
But one suspects the subway cat overdramatizes things.
Me? Being an undersized child, deaf, no ears, of course I became familiar with the phenomenon at an early age. But as I already had acknowledgement of God instilled in me, such was of short duration. God after all had given me a sense of humor.
Probably the subway cat should've tried God.
exboyfil (374 posts) Thu May-07-09 07:20 AM
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6. I was bullied up until 10th grade until I got into a group of good friends who watched my back and I watched theirs. The first day in Junior High my daughter was bullied by three 8th or 9th grade boys (she could not identify them). As far as I can tell, and I talk to her often - the incident has not been repeated. My daughter fortunately has a group of high achieving girls around her who are really good friends - interested in academics and making something of their lives - a far cry from most of her classmates.
Most teachers are useless when dealing with discipline problems. I knew I had an issue in 9th grade when I observed someone burning the tire seat of my bike, and my Honors English teacher was standing next to me. I pointed out the incident to her, and she did absolutely nothing. If an adult in authority does nothing, then how can a kid 2 or more grades lower deal with a group of bullies???
The best thing my parents ever did was move out of California. It literally saved my life.
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 07:16 AM
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5. The reason primitive peoples tend to have better psychological outcomes seems fairly obvious to me..
We are evolved for a neolithic lifestyle of associating with a small band of people, maybe ten to thirty or so, that we know intimately.
Modern society is very different from what humans are evolved to deal with, we are constantly exposed to total strangers and a great many of us have a hard time dealing with that.
It's a truism that shy people are not shy (or at least as shy anyway) around others that they know well, they are shy around strangers and relative strangers. Shy people are at a greatly increased risk to be bullied in modern cultures (ie cultures in which we tend to deal with a lot of people we do not know well).
whistler162 (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 08:42 AM
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16. What a load of twattle!
and yes that is all the comment that "study" merits!
The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:12 AM
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18. Really...
And on what basis do you so declare?
UP is likely one of the handful of posters on this board who has a better handle on psychology than most psychologists/psychiatrists I know. If she thinks the study has merit, I'd wager she's right.
I'll take a closer look myself. If you have some specific concern with the methodology, let's have it.
The now-famous formica primitive, the lying tits primitive's mentoree:
formercia (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 09:03 AM
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17. I have to deal with it every day
You know, I've noticed a steady increase in use of the word "primitive" on Skins's island recently. It used to be that the word was used, oh, maybe, three or four times a year. Now it's up to that many per day. One wonders what's up with that.
