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Offline tuolumnejim

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Ok a new DUmmie (or maybe a mole) makes a new thread and right away looks to disparage the big zero.

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undergroundnomore  (5 posts)     Mon May-04-09 03:27 PM
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my husband lost his job the day before thanksgiving
 He has a masters degree in mechanical engineering and his company told them that the fate of their jobs rested upon who would win the presidency.

Within weeks of Obama winning my husband was laid off. In early August the company will shut down greatly effecting local area business and schools.

For months now he has been sending out resumes. Often he receives emails saying that the company has decided not to fill the position they originally advertised.

Being unemployed is not a character flaw it is a reality. Thankfully, I'm a teacher and I haven't been laid off yet. I realize that so many people are worse off than us. Even more frightening is that even more people good, hardworking people will become unemployed soon unless things turn around.

I'm glad that Obama has put job creation as a top priority.
 


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babylonsister  (1000+ posts)        Mon May-04-09 03:32 PM
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3. Welcome to DU, undergroundnomore. So he lost his job
 because President Obama won? I don't understand the reasoning there.
 
« Last Edit: May 04, 2009, 11:14:45 AM by tuolumnejim »
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Offline USA4ME

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I don't understand the reasoning there.

You don't understand most things.  What else is new?

The primitives are very paranoid.  Note how they automatically assume that because the poster said their spouse's job was dependant upon who won the presidency, they automatically make it out to be that the poster is blaming Dear Leader rather than the employer.

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Because third world peasant labor is a good thing.

Offline jtyangel

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Here let me help you with the reasoning, Obama is unfriendly to business so businesses go into preservation mode over expansion. All fat or excess is cut, including jobs. I've seen it happening once many businesses waited to see if Obama would be friendly during his first 100 days. When it was noted he had no intention of being so, people started restricting even more. Obama can't waive his magic negro wand and just woosh create jobs without doing the kind of things that his liberals followers and he himself hates and that is to be business friendly via tax laws and other legislation that could effect economic growth. Ain't gonna happen so job creation ain't gonna happen. Unsurprisingly, a teacher in a public school(assumed) doesn't make the connection even when business has been forthright in why layoffs happened proving that you can not only lead a horse to water, but you can put it's mouth right in it and it still won't drink even if it's dehydrated.   :thatsright:

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There are quite a few businesses, especially start-ups or small concerns, where the predictable tax hit they would take under Obama's spending plans (plus increased employee benefits) goes in a straight (Downward-sloping) line to red ink for the out-years, versus remaining viable absent the Democrat spending, taxing, and social welfare programs.  Not hard at all to see some of the them choosing to cut workforce (or even liquidate and retire, for sole proprietorships or Subchapter S corps) rather than ride it down in flames all the way to the bottom of the crater. 
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To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges.

However, the good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.

Let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.

First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there is a Back Story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life.

However, what you don't see is the BACK STORY: I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.

My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling through the discount store extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9 A.M., mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5 P.M., I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations... you never realize the Back Story and the sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved money, have to bail-out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.

Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero.. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly government mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the poor of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep. So where am I going with all this?

It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I'll fire you. I'll fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem anymore.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about...

Signed, THE BOSS
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When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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H5, jukin!

I remember hearin about a boss in Ohio who, the day after the election, saw taxes going up and realized he was going to have let go of seven people.  He agonized over the decision all morning until he looked out into the parking lot.  He noted a number of vehicles with Obama stickers on them.  He went out and noted the first seven such vehicles and fired their owners.  I don't know if it's true, but it made me smile.
There comes a time when even good men must run up the black flag of anarchy and slit throats. - H.L. Mencken

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It's always funny to go to sites that will attract some arguementative moonbats, like PJM, find an article about this subject matter, and throw a John Galt bomb into the mix.  They cannot argue with it, they are powerless when you inform them you're going to fire everyone and go fishing.  They stomp their feet and throw tantrums, because you don't want to work 3/4 of the year for Mr. Zero.   Try it sometime, it's a peck of fun!