http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8373896Oh my.
jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:47 PM
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Obama 'furious' over plane mishap, sources say
(CNN) – President Obama was "furious" after one of the presidential jets was allowed to fly low over New York City for a White house photo-op, a senior administration official told CNN.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/27/obama-f...
It's a big bonfire, so only a little of the primitive jibber-jabber:
politicasista (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:48 PM
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1. Good!
Them people should have known better. Get em. Mr. President.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:49 PM
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2. I get the feeling Obama's a reasonable person, but has little patience for Teh Stupid.
targetpractice (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:50 PM
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4. I wonder what that was like.
I can't picture him being furious... I've read in the past that friends/colleagues claim he never gets heated.
Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. I can - tight lips, furrowed brow, glare
It takes a lot to do it, but I wouldn't want to piss him off!
I dunno. I'd be more scared of an angry Ma Kettle, Shelley-0.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 09:17 PM
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18. Just a look of disapproval from him would suffice for any reasonable person.
liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:51 PM
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6. I wouldn't want to see him angry.
Well, maybe I would, LOL. Good! That doesn't sound like something our highly competent President would be a party to.
William769 (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 08:55 PM
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8. I'm glad to see Obama furious over this gaffe.
I feel for the New Yorkers on the ground that witnessed this and had no idea what was going on.
firedupdem (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 09:00 PM
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11. I'm sure he was. That was really stupid!
Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #19
32. According to Keith his name is Luis Caldero, thats the name of the idiot.
Maybe he is one of Cheney's goons.
intheflow (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #32
42. That was my first thought: this was orchestrated by some civil servant marketing holdover from the Bush admin who wanted New Yorkers to associate a plane with the presidential seal with terrorists, right down to the fighter jet "escorts."
The primitives get around to discussing whether or not the mayor knew.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:38 AM
Response to Reply #53
96. Oh horsehit. Do you think the mayor would sign off on this without informing the media so the population would know?
Give me a break.
The cboy4 primitive put a
kibosh on that, so the primitives get back on topic.
SamCooke (42 posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:05 PM
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33. Obama didn't know about this stunt?
vaberella (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:47 PM
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54. I don't think so...considering the DOD followed procedure.
It was the responsibility of the Mayor and or NYPD or who ever to inform the public.
Like it was the responsibility of the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana to get people out of the way of Hurricane Katrina, franksolich then assumes.
jberryhill (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #33
60. Why would he?
If the Air Force wants to fly planes around and take pictures, they certainly don't need the president's approval.
Flying planes is what they are pretty good at doing.
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 06:44 AM
Response to Reply #60
109. You think the AIR FORCE can just fly in the U.S. ANY TIME??
Orsino (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 08:35 AM
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110. It was just a photo-op.
That's the sort of thing that filled Bush's days. I'd like to believe that Obama has more important things to do, and does them.
rufus dog (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:08 PM
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34. I don't believe it, this defies logic
Caldera would have to be the biggest arrogant asshole in the world for this to be plausible. No one spoke up and said this idea was idiotic? No one said hey if this needs to go down like this let's do it early Sunday morning to cause the least disruption? It is more plausible that someone, or a group of people had an axe to grind and said **** them, let's do this.
SamCooke (42 posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Gates had to sign off on it, didn't he?
I don't trust the guy. This seems to dumb for Obama to have any thing to do with it.
SamCooke (42 posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:20 PM
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41. Bloomberg seemed to take a shot at Obama and the DOD
Awwww, too bad for Pa Kettle.
Can't take any heat, can he, Pa Kettle?
Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-27-09 11:30 PM
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47. What's with the spate of "Angry Obama" stories all of the sudden?
Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 12:08 AM
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61. I have no idea what "furious" looks like on Barack Obama...
.... but I sure would hate to see it!
franksolich would be more fearful seeing it on Ma Kettle, not Pa Kettle.
Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 12:39 AM
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69. see, even then he's not saying anything....
.... I have a feeling, when he gets mad, he clams up and then walks away from you shaking his head, looking very dissapointed.
A fate worse than death.
empyreanisles (313 posts) Tue Apr-28-09 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #71
78. Whooa, back up for a moment.
No doubt this is a complete embarrassment, but laying all this at the foot of the President sounds like something a right winger would do. Sure, it's his decision now about what to do with the guy (Caldera), but why not give him at least 24 hours to figure this out, huh?
Talk about jumping the gun.
Too bad the primitives weren't willing to give George Bush seven minutes the morning of 9-11.
Now, the packing mom primitive, who was the very first primitive franksolich detected lying, so many years ago; the first of thousands:
Pachamama (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:19 AM
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90. Guess none of those people have ever heard of Photoshop?
Imagine how much fuel and effort could have been spared from what they did in this stupid act for a "photo op". All they needed to have done was take stock photos/past photos of Air Force one and put "national monuments" behind them....
The idiot boy who decided to fund and okay this stupid stunt that wasted money and needlessly scared and brought back bad memories for people still suffering from memories/nightmares of 9/11 - should be FIRED!!!! (and forced to take a photoshop class).
After which a primitive posts a photograph of Air Force One flying past Mount Rushmore.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:37 AM
Response to Reply #91
95. I've seen this shot before. Has Mt. Rushmore changed recently?
SamCooke (42 posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:41 AM
Response to Reply #95
97. Some people may not have seen it
Its a cool pic, but they could've got a great pic of the things just flying over the Atlantic. It just sounds dumb. They wanted to take pics of a governement plane flying thru NY. That makes no sense. I blame Bob Gates. I know he knew about this.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:54 AM
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98. I know. But my point is there's no reason to take a new photograph of a 747, painted in those colors and writing unless Mt. Rushmore has changed somehow, or the type of aircraft or livery has changed.
Neither has, which makes it all the more ridiculous and wasteful.
SamCooke (42 posts) Tue Apr-28-09 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #98
99. Just saw Shumber blame the FAA and the Bush appointee
That works for me.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 05:49 AM
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103. I agree with everything you said. I too absolutely don't believe Obama signed off on this.
He's seems far too intelligent to approve something a child could figure out would be highly inappropriate so close to Ground Zero.
agentS (513 posts) Tue Apr-28-09 06:13 AM
Response to Reply #90
105. See, this is why I think the Photo-op is BS.
It seems like a lot of hassle for a photo. My tinfoil hat is coming on!
I think it's a test drive of how quick people would react if a plane appeared under 2000ft in NYC airspace.
It could also be a setup by this Bush appointee to give President Obama a hard time.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 04:35 AM
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94. Being furious is good but it's not going to cut it.
He needs to do something Bush couldn't do, and that's fire people who **** up.
It's unforgivable someone actually signed off on flying a 747 15-hundred feet over the Hudson, being chased by fighter jets.
Unbelievable.
Excuses, excuses.
To quote a famous Democrat: "The buck stops here."
