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MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« on: April 21, 2009, 05:19:50 PM »
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Chris Simcox, a founder of the anti-illegal immigrant Minutemen, announced that he will challenge Sen. John McCain in next year's GOP primary. Simcox will officially kick off his campaign tomorrow in Phoenix.

“John McCain has failed miserably in his duty to secure this nation’s borders and protect the people of Arizona from the escalating violence and lawlessness,” Simcox said in a statement. “He has fought real efforts over the years at every turn, opting to hold our nation’s border security hostage to his amnesty schemes. Coupled with his votes for reckless bailout spending and big government solutions to our nation’s problems, John McCain is out of touch with everyday Arizonans. Enough is enough.”
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Will this force McCain more to the right in the coming months, or will he continue to lean to the left?  I'm almost willing to bet that McCain may retire, and his liberal daughter run for his seat. That one that has been running her mouth about Ann Coulter.

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 05:23:22 PM »
I saw that news story this morning, but am waiting for jendf and BadCat, who know more about the situation in Arizona, to chime in their thoughts on this particular candidacy.
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 05:26:55 PM »
I saw that news story this morning, but am waiting for jendf and BadCat, who know more about the situation in Arizona, to chime in their thoughts on this particular candidacy.

I'd vote for Simcox over McCain just on his stance on immigration alone, but from what I've seen elsewhere he is pretty conservative all the way.

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 06:52:28 PM »
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Will this force McCain more to the right in the coming months, or will he continue to lean to the left?  I'm almost willing to bet that McCain may retire, and his liberal daughter run for his seat. That one that has been running her mouth about Ann Coulter.

McCain has said he does want to run again. Mind you, that could change. But he did announce a few months ago that he had every intention to run in 2010.

The only reason I have kept my Republican Party registration is so that I can vote for whomever runs against him in the Republican primary.

I'm still holding out hope that J.D. Hayworth will throw his hat in the ring. He used to be a representative in Congress so he's got the experience. Currently, he is doing talk radio. A lot of callers have urged him to get back into politics. He's a fantastic conservative and he would be my first choice.

But if it ends up being only Chris Simcox, he's got my vote, hands down.

Anyone who has paid attention knows how McCain feels about amnesty. He sold out during the presidential election in the hopes that he could get elected and it didn't work.

If he suddenly changes his tune, I think the conservatives in Arizona will see through the BS and won't fall for it again.

I truly believe this will be McCain's toughest senate election regardless of who is running against him. He's ticked off A LOT of conservatives.

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 06:56:23 PM »
McCain has said he does want to run again. Mind you, that could change. But he did announce a few months ago that he had every intention to run in 2010.

The only reason I have kept my Republican Party registration is so that I can vote for whomever runs against him in the Republican primary.

I'm still holding out hope that J.D. Hayworth will throw his hat in the ring. He used to be a representative in Congress so he's got the experience. Currently, he is doing talk radio. A lot of callers have urged him to get back into politics. He's a fantastic conservative and he would be my first choice.

But if it ends up being only Chris Simcox, he's got my vote, hands down.

Anyone who has paid attention knows how McCain feels about amnesty. He sold out during the presidential election in the hopes that he could get elected and it didn't work.

If he suddenly changes his tune, I think the conservatives in Arizona will see through the BS and won't fall for it again.

I truly believe this will be McCain's toughest senate election regardless of who is running against him. He's ticked off A LOT of conservatives.



I like J D Hayworth, too. Fox News had him on a lot while he was in congress, but his appearances are few and far between these days. I could still McCain backing out and letting his daughter run, if the polls show him losing.

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 07:04:20 PM »
I like J D Hayworth, too. Fox News had him on a lot while he was in congress, but his appearances are few and far between these days. I could still McCain backing out and letting his daughter run, if the polls show him losing.

I, personally, think his pride would not let him do that. And I thought it was pretty ballsy after just getting his ass handed to him in November to come out and announce that he planned to run for re-election. Surely, he must have known how upset conservatives were with his campaign.

But you might be right. I think there will be a lot of pressure on him so it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds and how he deals with opposition.

He got my last vote though in November and I'm not the only voter in Arizona who has said that. He's on his own as far as I'm concerned.

I'm thinking of throwing a few bucks Simcox's way just to get the ball rolling. LOL.
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 07:15:40 PM »
I can see a lot of opposition to Simcox coming from the usual suspects, i.e. NAACP, LaRaza, and the other illegal alien support groups.  I wonder if Sheriff Joe would back Simcox?

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 07:20:31 PM »
He got my last vote though in November and I'm not the only voter in Arizona who has said that. He's on his own as far as I'm concerned.


Well said. I think Simcox will make a fine replacement and McCain can retire. McCain's daughter could run as a democrat, as they are the only ones who seem to like her these days.

JD Hayworth is a really good guy who got the shaft in 2006. His name was cleared of any wrong doing in the Abramoff situation, but long after the election.

Either one would be a big step up in representing Arizona in the senate.
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 07:29:54 PM »


Well said. I think Simcox will make a fine replacement and McCain can retire. McCain's daughter could run as a democrat, as they are the only ones who seem to like her these days.

JD Hayworth is a really good guy who got the shaft in 2006. His name was cleared of any wrong doing in the Abramoff situation, but long after the election.

Either one would be a big step up in representing Arizona in the senate.

I have noticed that Meghan McCain has been getting a lot of press from the MSM, almost as if they are pushing her much like they backed John McCain during the primaries. That was a major problem in 2008, the lefty media picked the Republican candidate, imo.

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 08:27:44 PM »
I have noticed that Meghan McCain has been getting a lot of press from the MSM, almost as if they are pushing her much like they backed John McCain during the primaries. That was a major problem in 2008, the lefty media picked the Republican candidate, imo.


We all watched that happen in New Hampshire. Without Palin, McCain would've been destroyed in the election.

His daughter is a msm darling because she likes to fault the right. The acorn didn't fall far did it?

McCain and nearly everyone else holding a seat in congress needs to be set out to pasture. 2010 can't come soon enough for me.
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 02:01:39 PM »
I would vote for JD Hayworth.

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The Hard Work of Compromise: America Needs a Comprehensive Immigration Policy


Yet Simcox agreed with others that society cannot afford the kind of social friction that immigration debates create. "We're all victims of government failure -- in Arizona and in Washington, D.C.," he said. "We need a compromise. And I'm willing to lead that compromise."


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Issue Clash: Immigration

Simcox Answers Questions:
Q: What stance should the U.S. government take regarding the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S?

A: It is against the law to enter the U.S. without authorization. Anyone discovered to be in the U.S. illegally, who has committed a crime, has stolen someone's identity, or has obtained false documents should be deported and never allowed to reenter the U.S. for any reason. The major problem we have is what to do with the children who were brought into the U.S. illegally. If they have been here since they were a child, they should be allowed to be put on a fast track to gain citizenship. Immediately declaring that the 14th Amendment does not grant automatic birthright citizenship will cut off the magnet that attracts people to take advantage of our charity.

Q: President Obama says longtime undocumented immigrants should have a path to citizenship in the U.S. Do you agree?

A: On a case-by-case basis I would agree that if someone is found to be living in the U.S. illegally, has been gainfully employed, has paid their taxes and has not committed a crime, I feel that we certainly can make an exception. But this will be the last time, and I would only accept that after our borders are secured and illegal immigration is no longer an out of control problem.

Q: Should undocumented immigrants with children born in the U.S. be allowed to stay here?

A: First we must immediately end automatic birthright citizenship, and then proceed on a case-by-case basis. If the child is under the age of 18, then their parents should be allowed to stay in the U.S. to seek citizenship unless they commit a crime. However, if citizenship is not processed before the child turns 18, then the parents must then self-deport.


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“They need to be brought out of the shadows. They need to be documented and swear an oath to become a citizen,” he said. “If they do that, then by all means they deserve the opportunity that anyone else has.” ~ Chris Simcox, the American DREAM Act, SB170

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 09:43:38 AM »
I caught some of Hayworth's show last night. He has confirmed that he is actively considering a run for senate.  :hyper:
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 09:54:43 AM »
I caught some of Hayworth's show last night. He has confirmed that he is actively considering a run for senate.  :hyper:

Is there such a thing as having too many good Republican candidates?

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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 10:14:40 AM »
Is there such a thing as having too many good Republican candidates?

I don't know. I have a feeling that if Hayworth does dive in, Simcox and any other challenger will be left in the dust. But only time will tell...
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Re: MINUTEMAN TO CHALLENGE MCCAIN IN AZ
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 11:22:38 AM »
I agree it is time for Mccain to retire. However lets hope the voters don't put another career politician in his place. We don't need them.
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