shraby (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-21-09 11:27 AM
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7. If diets/weight loss programs/weight loss pills really worked, there'd be NO fat people because noone WANTS to be overweight...but those methods don't work now, didn't then, and won't tomorrow. Criticism is no cure and won't help either. Until science finds out what causes it, overweight people will continue to feel miserable not only from their own discomfort, but by the shame and ridicule heaped on them by the "skinnies" who haven't a clue about anything.
Bull to the shit.
Just a few comments:
ON the overweight don't want to be overweight:
1. No, of course not, but they do stay that way if they don't ever own up to their own responsibility for being that way. Kind of the old admitting you have a problem first before you can actually solve the problem
2. Again, no of course they don't, but people admit all the time that they really don't want to put the work in: the potluck at work is just too tempting, or the holiday food, and run around the block--it can wait. I get it, we are all there no matter how fit we are, but at some point you have to stop running all the bad choices together or no matter how much you don't want to be overweight, you always will be that. Wishing you weren't isn't enough to change years of abuse of inactivity and overeating on the body.
On the "skinnies" comment:
1. Never occured to Shraby's I suppose that the 'skinnies' were once 'heavies' and by virtue of having been on both sides of the coin, know exactly what they are talking about in regards to what it takes.
2. Using terms like skinnies and belittling the efforts of others dismisses the hard work it takes to either maintain or lose weight. A lot of sweat, sacrifice, and sometimes working through injuries went into creating an athletic body. Why should someone be ashamed of that?
3. Active people come in all variations between overweight and 'skinnies': athletic, lean, overweight(but active), hell I've even seen pregnant women about to pop still doing step mostly low impact--wow! I gotta give them credit!
4. People encouraging weight loss and personal responsibility are not insulting fat people. ONe can not change a thing in their lives until they realize that they are the ONLY one to effect that kind of change, ie take responsibility. Trainers, fitness instructors, and friends who will encourage someone by staying real with them are not being insensitive. Somehow, I think that Shraby probably thinks the kind of push that active people wilkl give you sometimes almost like drill instructors are insensitive--they are not--they are keeping it real and encouraging.
On the 'Shraby's" of the world:
1. Shraby is the worst type of person to have around when you are losing weight. They discount the efforts of those people really working hard to change how they live their lives. They are roadblocks of the worst kind to positive change and are usually the type waiting with a piece of cake or chocolate to try and sabotage their friends so they can sit their holding their hand and sympathizing with their failed efforts. Shraby is nothing but discouragement and hopelessness that people like those ladies have to kick their way they through: in essence, it is the fat-enablers like Shraby who are the true enemies of healthy lifestyle choices, not the 'skinnies'.
2. I"m always amazed at how the Shraby's of the world can continue to hang on to the same tired old excuses when the web and the real world is littered with success stories of weight loss and every damn one of them who did it healthy will tell you the very firs tthing they did was get real with themselves and then they took responsibility for it with action. Shraby's arguments hold no weight, no pun intended, given the face of real hard evidence to the contrary, yet they still hold on to it.
