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Offline franksolich

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primitives use only half the fiber they should
« on: April 20, 2009, 05:55:26 PM »
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Oh my.  Talk about half measures.

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Blues Heron  (138 posts)      Mon Apr-20-09 10:50 AM
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Half whole wheat is not bad

not bad at all!

I did a sponge, for two hours, then made the dough, proofed, then rested in the fridge overnight. I must say it's nice to have firmer dough to work with after all these ultra wet Ain5 variations!

this made a nice sized loaf, half is in the freezer - should last us about a week all told.

Here's what I did:

2 cups whole wheat flour
2 cups AP flour
1 tsp instant yeast (use twice as much regular yeast)
2 tsp salt
1.5 cups water

mix the yeast and salt into the water, add the whole wheat flour. let that bubble for a couple of hours, then add the white flour. Knead a bit, let rise till doubled, then rest in fridge overnight. Next day, remove dough and allow to warm up for a couple of hours. Knead, and shape loaf ( I went with a rolled cylinder) proof on greased baking sheet, slash, spritz loaf and tray with water, bake at 450 for 18 minutes, reduce to 400, total time 42 minutes.

This one really has that nutty whole wheat sweetness. Try it!

after which two photographs of nearly burnt bread

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kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)        Mon Apr-20-09 12:09 PM
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1. I use half whole wheat in almost all my baking. I need the fiber.

Well, one would get more fiber if one used whole whole wheat.

It's that simple.

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Tesha  (1000+ posts)      Mon Apr-20-09 12:32 PM
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2. very pretty....

have you tried it in a loaf pan for nice big slices for sandwiches?

that looks both light and moist - gonna make some for sure!

I dunno.  It looks to me as if the crust got burnt.

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Blues Heron  (138 posts)      Mon Apr-20-09 01:13 PM
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5. Thanks Tesha!

The texture of the crumb is nice -soft, toasts up evenly. I could see this being the go-to recipe for our bread for a while. I haven't been using the pans lately - think I'll try that next. I liie to make a couple of pan loaves and freeze one.

You know, the warped primitive is a nurse, and usually commonsensical on things other than politics or humanity, but she can drive one nuts at times, with her silly little quirks. 

For example, she seems to be allergic to foods good for one (example: whole milk) but not allergic to foods bad for one (example: refined sugar chocolate).

And now it appears the warped primitive doesn't like an unclogged intestine.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Mon Apr-20-09 12:58 PM
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3. I'm not overly fond of 100% whole wheat so I usually use anywhere from a 70%-30% mix of ww. to white flour to a 50%-50% mixture, depending on how much ww. flour is in the freezer. The crumb is considerably stronger with the addition of white flour and the bread holds up for gooey sandwiches far better with it than without it.

However much you do, letting a wet dough sit overnight to absorb all the water it can is absolutely essential. While I know people who can do same day bread, it's just not as good when I do it.

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Blues Heron  (138 posts)      Mon Apr-20-09 01:07 PM
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4. getting a feel for the variations now

Haven't done a 100% ww yet. So true about the overnight rest - did a similar recipe same day and it didn't have either the sweet taste or the texture. Got to tame those grains I guess!

The best variation is 100% whole wheat.

One wonders if the primitives dilute the marijuana they smoke, with half marijuana, half garden weedery.

Damn.
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Re: primitives use only half the fiber they should
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 06:39:50 AM »
I hate white bread...its so boring!  If I buy, I prefer 100% whole wheat, but if I'm baking, I do 1/2 and 1/2, because it's easier to get the rise you need without extra stuff added.

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Re: primitives use only half the fiber they should
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 12:02:13 PM »
.....but if I'm baking, I do 1/2 and 1/2, because it's easier to get the rise you need without extra stuff added.

I bow to your expertise, madam; I wasn't aware that whole wheat flour is harder to raise than partially whole wheat flour.

That's the first new thing I learned today.

For decent and civilized people to use partially whole wheat flour makes sense, but not in the case of primitives, who are primitives after all.  I don't think they use partially whole wheat flour beause it's easier to get a rise, but just because primitives hate things good for them, and fiber of course is good for them.

One day about a month ago, I had to run to the gocery store in town, because I neeeded a loaf of bread.  The bread-deliveryman was showing up that day, but hadn't shown yet, and the store was out of the whole wheat bread I usually buy.

As I needed a loaf, I surveyed the bread available, and my eyes immediately latched onto a loaf of name-brand whole wheat bread, advertising TRIPLE FIBER, on "special" from its regular price of $4.29 to 2/$5.00.

So I picked up a loaf of that.

That bread was so good, I'm embarrassed to admit I ate the whole loaf in something less than 24 hours.  Damn, it was good, with or without anything on it.

The next day, when sitting at the computer posting here, momentarily the stomach felt as if a clothes-pin was pinching a small part of the inside of the stomach--but it was nothing major, because it was just for a few minutes, and after I had some milk and stuff, it evaporated entirely, and has never returned.

Curious, I checked the plastic bread-wrapped laying on top of the garbage.

The "normal" dose, I suppose, for a fully-grown healthy American male is a diet with 40 mg or 40 g or 40 kg of fiber every day (stupid metric system; just as the primitives have no understanding of the difference between "million," "billion," and "trillion," I never paid much attention, other than that the number is 40).

According to the label, the entire loaf of bread had 1680 mg or g or kg of fiber.

Before anyone thinks ahead of me, I must point out that at no time was there any intestinal distress.

Now, obviously 1680 mg or g or kg (whatever it is) of fiber is a lot of fiber, but it didn't do me any harm.  In fact, its benefits were sustantial, because that day and the next couple of days, I got more work done than I usually do, and with a positive, healthy, sparkling, well-adjusted attitude.  In fact, I think this healthy attitude betrayed itself in the quality of my postings here those days, my best posting days here ever.

I suspect this is why primitives have fiberphobia; they know it's going to make them feel better, and primitives don't want to feel better; they just want to wallow in misery and wretchedness, so they can complain.

I strongly suggest the warped primitive try that sometime, a whole loaf of that bread, and maybe about a gallon of whole milk during a day.  The warped primitive is a nurse, and doesn't like whole wheat stuff and alleges to be "allergic" to dairy products, but the warped primitive being a nurse understands the phenomenon of hypochondria and psychosomatic "ailments," and so it wouldn't hurt her.

If she did that, the warped primitive would find herself happier, more fulfilled, brimming with nothing but good will and good nature towards all in the world; a gift to humanity.

But no, the warped primitive, being a primitive, doesn't want to be happy.
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Re: primitives use only half the fiber they should
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 12:24:40 PM »
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kestrel91316  (1000+ posts)        Mon Apr-20-09 12:09 PM
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1. I use half whole wheat in almost all my baking. I need the fiber.

...just another DUmmie complaining about being full of sh*t.   :whatever:
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Re: primitives use only half the fiber they should
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 01:02:19 PM »
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The "normal" dose, I suppose, for a fully-grown healthy American male is a diet with 40 mg or 40 g or 40 kg




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Re: primitives use only half the fiber they should
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 01:06:37 PM »
Talk about "colonblow".   :rotf:

I know, but if the primitives can be lazy about differentiating between "million" and "billion" and "trillion," as I'm only human, I can be lazy about all this "g" nonsense.
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