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Offline Gratiot

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Question for the Guys and Cags
« on: April 10, 2009, 11:54:16 AM »
Around four in the morning, you walk out to your car in the company parking lot with a coworker.  Which incidentally isn't in the best neighborhood, but has a security fence and gate.  Someone has broken into your newer, very high end, sports car and is currently rummaging through it.   

What do you do?
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 12:22:22 PM »
Are you armed or not? Cell Phone or not??
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 12:25:42 PM »
Quote from: Thor on April 10, 2009, 12:22:22 PM
Are you armed or not? Cell Phone or not??

I'm intentionally leaving this somewhat vague.  For the question though, consider yourself in the situation.  If you carry a cell phone or weaponry, so be it.

Actually, on clarification, it is a weapon free work place.  Which extends to the supposedly secured parking facility.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 12:36:54 PM »
Call the cops while looking for something to use as a weapon.  I would take the chance that criminals breaking into a car would not be armed.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 01:14:29 PM »
Is this a hypothetical, "Would you risk your job by holding him at gunpoint until the cops got there?"

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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 01:17:26 PM »
Call the police with yours or the co-workers cell. Then run the bastages over with the co-workers car.  :-)
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 03:23:26 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on April 10, 2009, 01:14:29 PM
Is this a hypothetical, "Would you risk your job by holding him at gunpoint until the cops got there?"

Spot on, that's very close to one of a few things I'm curious about  :cheersmate:

My hope is that it shall always remain a hypothetical situation for everyone here.  Albeit real events brought this up, thankfully I wasn't involved, and I feel sorry for all that were. 

As for the risk of brandishing a firearm to hold a criminal until the police arrive, that is something else to consider.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 03:30:46 PM »
Quote from: Gratiot on April 10, 2009, 11:54:16 AM
Around four in the morning, you walk out to your car in the company parking lot with a coworker.  Which incidentally isn't in the best neighborhood, but has a security fence and gate.  Someone has broken into your newer, very high end, sports car and is currently rummaging through it.   

What do you do?

Calmly and quietly say, "Let me see your hands or you are one dead mutha-fuqua." followed quickly by the "click-click" of a S&W .357 hammer.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 05:14:49 PM »
Tire iron to the back of the head then call 911 and say you just found him like that.  Make sure you watch enough Bones, CSI, Law & Order to get rid of any evidence very quickly.

By the way, I am watching a episode of Bones right now and they are in W.V.  I HATE!!!! the way they(Hollywood) portray people from WV as inbred redneck fat ugly pieces of crap. :banghead:  The majority of the people I knew growing up were educated, healthy, families.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2009, 05:16:52 PM »
I have to amend that comment to say this...  Since I don't have a job outside of our home I would have to assume that I was coming out of Walmart or the mall instead.  If I had my kids with me I would call 911 and let the person finish the job.  I sometimes carry my weapon depending on what kind of pants I have on.  After my .38 pulled my shorts down in the street last year I am much more careful of my outfits.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 05:19:50 PM »
Well, being a female who doesn't carry...I would return back to work and call the cops.

But, if it's too late for that and I've been spotted...and they try to assault me...well then, I have my bare hands and I'm not afraid to use them...Probably a hard knee to the balls, swift kick to the face, scratch their eyeballs, bite...ya know..all sorts of playful stuff.
Enough for them to realize they picked on the wrong girl.  :-)
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 05:58:39 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on April 10, 2009, 05:16:52 PM
After my .38 pulled my shorts down in the street last year I am much more careful of my outfits.
:rofl:  Don't forget a belt.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2009, 06:24:37 PM »
I tend to confront.  It's a sort of reflex action.  It goes against my otherwise widely known tendency to over-think everything.  I don't know why. 

I suppose, using your scenario, I would either end up badly hurt or dead.  I don't carry my gun on a daily basis.  I know  I should.
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 06:36:37 PM »
Assuming I was in a carpark in a built up area, and living as I do in a "Victim Rich Environment" , Call the cops then wait and observe. If I'm spotted and confronted - it's on, if not wait for the thief to leave and follow them contacting the police to update them intermittently.

Cops might even decide to show up sometime in the next 6 hours it it's not a busy night for something like that.

If you told them "I've just shot the little bastard breaking into my car" - they'd be there to arrest you before you could blink.

However, If I was in one of my regular out of town destinations - well that's a different story.




 
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2009, 07:02:46 PM »
Thanks for the answers everyone. 
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Re: Question for the Guys and Cags
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2009, 08:49:12 AM »
Quote from: Gratiot on April 10, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
Spot on, that's very close to one of a few things I'm curious about  :cheersmate:

My hope is that it shall always remain a hypothetical situation for everyone here.  Albeit real events brought this up, thankfully I wasn't involved, and I feel sorry for all that were. 

As for the risk of brandishing a firearm to hold a criminal until the police arrive, that is something else to consider.

Well, considering that I work at a location that doesn't allow firearms in the property, do random vehicle searches, and is VERY secure, anyone caught breaking into my car wouldn't get shot, but I could rest assured that the 18 gazillion freakin security cameras would have him/her described down to the year of the quarter in the bottom of his left front jeans pocket.  So in reality, I probably would get a description of the perp and his/her vehicle and report it to our security (who DOES have guns) who would then take the person into custody and turn them over to police.

Now had you asked if I were in a "gun-free" zone (aka school zone) and someone breaks into my house at 2 am...
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