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Offline thundley4

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Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« on: April 03, 2009, 11:37:36 AM »


"BINGHAMTON, N.Y. - A published report says at least four people have been shot at the American Civic Association in Binghamton and several people have been taken hostage.

The Press & Sun Bulletin in Binghamton reports local apartments are being evacuated.

Four people have been removed from the building on stretchers and taken to hospitals. The Binghamton SWAT team is on the scene. The newspaper reports there are reportedly 41 hostages in the building.

The incident started about 10:30 a.m." http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-binghamton-shooting-0403,0,1516820.story

FNC is saying 4 dead, 12 shot.  Shit, this is near my wife's hometown of Port Crane.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 01:12:10 PM »
RIP to the victims.

13 dead according to Fox now.

May the shooters rot in hell, if there is such a place.  :bird:

The gun grabbers are going to milk this for all its worth, especially if the 'high powered rifle' they are talking about turns out to be what the idiots call an 'assault weapon.' :thatsright:

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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 01:58:39 PM »
Ummm . . . the numbers have gone up.

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Binghamton shooting leaves 13 dead

Thirteen people have been reported dead in this morning's shooting at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, police have told Gov. David Paterson's office.

Two people were taken from the American Civic Association with their hands cuffed behind their back. Dozens of others were being held hostage by a gunman in the Binghamton building.

Scanner reports indicate that police were following another man under the Court Street bridge.

As of 2:44 p.m., some law enforcement started leaving the site. Court and Main streets have been reopened to motor vehicle traffic.

The three patients at Wilson Regional Medical Center ranged in condition, with at least one critical, said spokesman Jon Tooley. According to reports at the scene, two were in surgery at Wilson. Two are women and one is a man; they range in age from 20 to 60.

You can bet your fourth points of contact that the gun grabbers will milk this for everything they can.

http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20090403/COMMUN05/90403027/1104/COMMUN05

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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 04:09:09 PM »
Apparently, the gunman was a 41-year-old man of Vietmanese descent, who had been laid off by IBM, a big employer in the area.  Don't know when he was laid off, or what his job was at IBM.  I'm watching Governor Paterson right now.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 04:16:05 PM »
Well here comes the next AWB.  This one probably won't have a sunset date.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 04:23:23 PM »
Prayers for the victims and their families....
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 04:32:11 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 03, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Well here comes the next AWB.  This one probably won't have a sunset date.

Maybe the next president should run on the slogan, "A pistol in every pocket."
Works for me.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 04:40:58 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 03, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Well here comes the next AWB.  This one probably won't have a sunset date.

The "sunset date" will be when the next conservative-led Republican Congress decides to get rid of it--in 2013.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 05:06:18 PM »
I feel sorry for the victims and their families. I agree that Congress is going to use this to take a grab at anything they can get. We all should have stocked up much sooner while the times were good.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 05:07:07 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on April 03, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Well here comes the next AWB.  This one probably won't have a sunset date.

The other side of this could be that NY goes from a "may issue" to a "shall issue" state.

Oh, hell--even I couldn't say that with a straight face.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2009, 08:55:23 PM »
I thought NY was a won't issue state.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 09:28:15 PM »
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I thought NY was a won't issue state.

I'm in NY & I agree.

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I'm skeert the Obiden may try to make an issue out of this incident.

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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 09:37:18 PM »
Quote from: Dragon on April 03, 2009, 08:55:23 PM
I thought NY was a won't issue state.

The only two no-issue states as of 2006 are Illinois and Wisconsin.  NY is a "may-issue" state, but it might as well be no-issue, kinda like Massachusetts or California.

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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 10:36:42 PM »
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The only two no-issue states as of 2006 are Illinois and Wisconsin.  NY is a "may-issue" state, but it might as well be no-issue, kinda like Massachusetts or California.

NY permit is needed for purchase of handgun.
Requirements: 1). $$$ for appliation fee
                    2). Lots of patience.
This license is only good for buying a handgun and bringing it home or to the range, but not to be carried at any time on your person while transporting, but packaged up (as in a box or container) and kept from being readily acessable (as in the trunk of your car), not containing and separate from ammo.

NY CCW are few and far between.
Requirements: 1). Have way lots of patience
                    2). Live in the right county where the chief county judge will even consider approving it.
                          or
                    3). Be an anti gun hypocrite US Senator... like Chuck  Schumer
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 04:23:05 AM »
Quote from: DULurkster on April 03, 2009, 10:36:42 PM
NY permit is needed for purchase of handgun.
Requirements: 1). $$$ for appliation fee
                    2). Lots of patience.
This license is only good for buying a handgun and bringing it home or to the range, but not to be carried at any time on your person while transporting, but packaged up (as in a box or container) and kept from being readily acessable (as in the trunk of your car), not containing and separate from ammo.

NY CCW are few and far between.
Requirements: 1). Have way lots of patience
                    2). Live in the right county where the chief county judge will even consider approving it.
                          or
                    3). Be an anti gun hypocrite US Senator... like Chuck  Schumer


Some counties, mine included, allow carry for "Hunting and Target only."  That's what's on my permit.  A co-worker of mine who had a side business that dealt in cash (legal--we're real estate appraisers) tried to get an upgrade to a full-carry permit.  He lives in the same county as I do.  The judge denied the upgrade, but gave said co-worker four additional weeks to re-state his case and to provide whatever additional information he could to the judge.  In effect, the judge was saying, "I'll do this, but you've got to show me that you deserve for me to do this."  Said co-worker did provide some additional info, but not the stuff that I advised that he should do.  Result--no upgrade.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 09:27:56 AM »
Wow.  That's pretty sad.  All I did was take $10 to my local PD to cover the cost of a background check and give them a form with three references.  Two weeks later, I got a call to pick up my CCW permit.  Doesn't say which one I'm limited to--lucky me.
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Re: Report: 4 shot at civic association in upstate New York
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 09:13:20 PM »
Here is a copy of a handwritten letter the shooter left:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/2009/20090407_WONG_LETTER.pdf

All I can tell is that he's not happy with the police.
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