http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=226x6951Oh my, how things get interesting down there in Missouri.
udbcrzy2 (7 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:08 PM
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Caught Detectives Going Through My Car - WTF ! ! !
This is really weird. A couple of days ago my door bell is ringing and I am asleep. I go downstairs and look outside and 2-guys have my car door open and one is going through my glove box. I walked outside and asked them WTF. They said, 'they just wanted to make sure they were at the correct address'. They were looking for my son (who does not live with me) so they could ask him some questions.
I called 911 to report the break-in and asked them to come and take fingerprints, but they say it's not a crime. The supervisor called me and he said it's not a crime. I don't think that's quite right. They said I could file a citizens complaint within
5-days, so I am. But, I really doubt that anything will happen to them.
Isn't there a law against this? The only shit they have on me is that I have had 2 traffic tickets in my entire life and I'm 50-years old.
I follow the law, I pay my taxes and then they pull this shit on me?
I think they should be investigated by some other agency, but who?
I'm in Missouri, no I mean Redneck Mizzouri
Hmmm. One wonders what the son's been up to, that the cops need to query him.
terisan (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:10 PM
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1. Might you call ACLU for advice?
Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:11 PM
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I think it actually depends on state law.
Different states have different laws about privacy in re: automobiles. Call a lawyer.
TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:12 PM
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4. Nope, federal law is crystal clear on this point
The suggestion to call a laywer, however, is a very good one.
Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:11 PM
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2. Nothing cops do is a crime, don't you know that?
Bush too. Nothing he does is a crime.
Generally, no, nothing cops do is a crime.
But generally, yes, much of what primitives do are criminal.
quiller4 (229 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:12 PM
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3. Do not let this go unchallenged
You gave no permission for a search. File a citizens complaint and call your local ACLU and get a recommendation for an attorney. Take action do not let this go unchallenged.
udbcrzy2 (7 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:16 PM
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6. That's what I'm talkin bout
I don't want to let it go. They were 'CAUGHT' going through my car.
It's a good thing the door to my house was locked because I'll bet that they would have came in my house.
I can't afford a lawyer. I'm an unemployed wal-mart worker.
But I have lots of time to make them MIZZOURI-able
Fovea (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:20 PM
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7. Dude.
You are in redneck Missouri, my old stomping grounds.
If you want to get justice for this outrage, you gotta find out where their deer stands are.
The rest is up to you.
One word on the power of the feds over rural mule **** Missouri.
Skidmore.
Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:15 PM
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5. They had to go through your car to make sure they had the right address? WTF??
What, like knocking on the door and asking was too hard? Sounds like they were on a fishing expedition. I don't know what agency you could go to but definitely talk to the ACLU. You might also try reporting the incident to your local news station.
robinlynne (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:21 PM
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8. The ACLU published videos about our rights. One I remember is they have to ask your permission to go in your car. If you open your car they have the right. if you refuse they CANNOT without a warrant.
same with your house. Once you let them in they can do whatever they want.
this sounds highly illegal to me. If however your car window was open, I don't know.
The ACLU video says if the police ask you to open your car you say: I do not give permission for a search. Then they cannot.
udbcrzy2 (7 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:27 PM
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9. Car was closed & I'm asleep
No, I was in bed and the door bell woke me up. When I came down stairs, I looked out the window and noticed they were in my closed up car. That's when I went out there and said WTF ! !
I actually caught them. I live in a rural area, quiet little street with houses spaced
about 1-2 acres apart. They thought nobody was home and they were being CRIMINALS
Lasher (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:29 PM
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10. Missouri has a Castle Doctrine law.
And it extends to one's vehicle. Might not be too smart of them to be helping themselves to the contents of peoples' glove compartments without permission.
sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:34 PM
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11. Did you get their names? What agency were they from? You will need that data to make a complaint.
udbcrzy2 (7 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:41 PM
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13. They won't give me their names
They are protecting them, they will not give me the names.
I have one of the names, but the guy who was inside of my car they won't give his name. So, I'll just have to refer to him as 'Chuckie' (from the movie) just because that's who he reminded me of.
Can you imagine if my house door would have been unlocked and if they would have been in my house while I lay in bed butt naked?
I still cannot believe this crap.
Oh man, a primitive in bed butt naked.
Even if I were in pursuit of a dangerous criminal, if seeing a butt naked primitive made the difference between catching the criminal or not, I'd just as soon not.
rd_kent (749 posts) Sat Mar-28-09 06:40 PM
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18. If I saw someone breaking into my car
I would have called 911. If these jokers refused to show I.D. I would have gotten my gun and it would have been "on." I know it sounds wrong, but we have a right to protect ourselves and our property. Police who act outside the law are not acting in their official capacity and are criminals like any other respectable burglar, and need to be confronted as such.
As a side story, I had two "officers" come to my door one night "investigating" a crime that happened on the street. Before I opened the door, I asked for I.D., which they held up and showed me. I then asked them to wait just a minute while I called the police station and verified that they were "on duty". Then I stepped outside and everything went smoothly.
Well, shit.
Cops show their identification without even being asked.
So what's the beef?
rocktivity (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 03:40 PM
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12. They rang your doorbell and proceeding to search your car?
You should have called the cops right away!
Uben (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 04:07 PM
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14. Was the car locked?
In some states they are allowed to search an unlocked car. That's why when you are pulled over and they ask you to get out, you take your keys and lock the door when you exit. They cannot search a locked vehicle without permission or a warrant.
RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-27-09 04:14 PM
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15. I'm real surprised they did that - people have been known to have gotten themselves shot breaking into cars in Missouri.
What if you'd come out shooting first, and asking questions later?
(I lived nearly a quarter of my life in central MO.)
potisok (53 posts) Fri Mar-27-09 04:29 PM
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16. Black harted SOB's
The justice system here in Missouri supports its police, warn your son and roll over and keep your mouth shut, it can get worse. Fighting the police state usually pisses them off and accomplishes nothing most of the time. Lock your doors (cars included) and enjoy life, they haven't started sending us to secret rendition sites yet, not really sure on that as they are secret.
Have fun and give them hell as it sounds as though they deserve it and are in the wrong.
A fellow Missourian.
I think the crazed primitive's a mole.
