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I hate these people a lot.
« on: March 31, 2009, 03:27:14 PM »
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You know what the world needs more of? Spoiled rotten child-monkeys, that’s what.

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[Her kid was a brat, so] Ms. Leavey began to practise consensual living, a set of principles designed to help family members understand each other’s feelings and meet one another’s needs.

In the consensual living model, father doesn’t know best. Neither does mom. Instead, parents and children are equal partners in family life, according to the principles laid out at consensual-living.com.

…Devotees study books such as Unconditional Parenting by Alfie Kohn and Marshall Rosenberg’s Nonviolent Communication, and they consider parenting based on punishment and reward structures to be “coercive.”

In contrast, “consensual” parenting is non-hierarchical.

…Lindsay Hollett of Nanaimo, B.C., says that she began to snap less with her husband, Craig, and her 18-month-old daughter, Kahlan, after she adopted the consensual-living mindset about a year ago.

Her days became more relaxed when she focused more on Kahlan’s needs, she says. If she had a doctor’s appointment but her daughter was feeling grumpy, for example, Ms. Hollett would not force Kahlan to wait with her to see the doctor. Instead, Ms. Hollett might cancel the appointment or arrange alternative child care, she says.

…Echota Keller, a mother in Langley, B.C., says that she creates boundaries with her three-year-old son, Kiernen, while “giving him the space to be his own person.”

In daily life, she makes a practice of letting him know what her intentions are, she says, “and asking him if that’s going to work for him.”

Recently, the principles of consensual living have helped her cope with her son’s hitting stage, she says.

When Kiernen strikes another child, Ms. Keller asks him what he’s feeling and whether he’d like to express his anger or frustration in another way, such as using words or hitting a pillow.

She tells him it’s not okay to hit others, but she and her husband, Josh, do not force Kiernen to say he’s sorry. “If he’s going to apologize, we want it to be authentic,” Ms. Keller says.

Tell me that doesn’t make you want to “express your frustration” on one of those parents’ faces with a hard object. Maybe when they tell you that their intention is for you to stop, you can let them know that it’s just not going to work for you. Because you need some space to be your own person.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 03:33:38 PM »
What?  The?  Hell?

Did I just fall asleep and wake up in Bizarro World?
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 03:40:18 PM »
Spare the rod spoil the child.  :thatsright:
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 03:42:30 PM »
I don't know.  This doesn't seem so bad to me.  My wife works with a lot of these kids.






















She works at the Estelle Prison unit in Huntsville, TX and it really helps to pay the bills. 

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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 03:42:49 PM »
Quote from: bijou on March 31, 2009, 03:27:14 PM
Tell me that doesn’t make you want to “express your frustration” on one of those parents’ faces with a hard object. Maybe when they tell you that their intention is for you to stop, you can let them know that it’s just not going to work for you. Because you need some space to be your own person.
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Hi,

I raised four children and they turned out pretty well.  We believed in consensual parenting......oops I mean consentual....  They consented to do what their mother and I told them to do or they were punished until they had an attitude change, and saw it our way and consented.

I misunderstood the word consensual.....the only senses involved were the nerve endings in their backsides sending messages to their brain.  That works too by the way.  Once or twice a belt helps speed up the message.  Contrary to liberal thinking it does not mess up their psychie, it just turns them into clear thinking republican who know right from wrong.

Worked for us,
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 03:45:24 PM »
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Devotees study books such as Unconditional Parenting by Alfie Kohn and Marshall Rosenberg’s Nonviolent Communication, and they consider parenting based on punishment and reward structures to be “coercive.”

I'm willing to bet that if these over-educated pinheads were being coerced out of their wallets they would want the police to show-up to coercively de-coecre their coercer.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 03:46:24 PM »
oh dear God.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 03:52:15 PM »
Screw this.

In our house it is roughly 1942, regardless of what the calender says.

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 03:56:35 PM »
Liberals have been trying to erase the difference between childhood and adulthood for many years.  Those damn things called human nature and reality keeps tripping them up.  But they persevere, as always.

Children who have not been taught discipline have been abused.  Liberals are child abusers in many many ways.  
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 04:02:14 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
Screw this.

In our house it is roughly 1942, regardless of what the calender says.




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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 04:30:54 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
Screw this.

In our house it is roughly 1942, regardless of what the calender says.


I've been accused of being a bit 'Old School' myself. I've found that there a very few problems that a good whack across the backside with a large wooden cooking spoon won't cure. Incidentally, the kids will act a complete fool for Mrs. Tantal sometimes. I'll come home and she's about to pull her hair out.

Me: "Have you busted their asses yet?"
Her: "No."
Me: "There you have it."

Which is usually followed by

Her: "Well, why don't YOU do it?"
Me: "Why? They haven't disobeyed ME yet?"

The evening typically goes downhill from there. :-)
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 04:32:44 PM »
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 04:54:04 PM »
we have a thing in the Dutch household called preemptive mass punishment.

sometime they will do something wrong and I'll be one up on them.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 05:12:23 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 04:32:44 PM


Well, my kids didn't look like that...but they have been known to beg teachers not to call me.   :evillaugh:
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 05:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Tantal on March 31, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
I've been accused of being a bit 'Old School' myself. I've found that there a very few problems that a good whack across the backside with a large wooden cooking spoon won't cure. Incidentally, the kids will act a complete fool for Mrs. Tantal sometimes. I'll come home and she's about to pull her hair out.

Me: "Have you busted their asses yet?"
Her: "No."
Me: "There you have it."

Which is usually followed by

Her: "Well, why don't YOU do it?"
Me: "Why? They haven't disobeyed ME yet?"

The evening typically goes downhill from there. :-)
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Around our house it usually starts with, "Look what your son did".   :uhsure:
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Re: I hate these people a lot.
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 05:43:16 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
Screw this.

In our house it is roughly 1942, regardless of what the calender says.



Hi,

I love it!

Actually I also find it quite rewarding, (now that all my children are older), when I hear them say the same things to their children that they heard when they were children.    I am trying to be serious this time.

The greatest legacy any parent can do for their children is teach them to survive on this planet, and know right from wrong and act accordingly.

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2009, 05:54:33 PM »
I love that picture ASDF.:rofl:

I keep telling my son to screw around with me one more time and he'll find out what happened to the first kid I had. :-)
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2009, 06:00:57 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on March 31, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
I love that picture ASDF.:rofl:

I keep telling my son to screw around with me one more time and he'll find out what happened to the first kid I had. :-)

I posted it at TOS and one of the nOObs commented that it should say that "You have suceeded as a child abuser" :whatever:
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2009, 06:47:51 PM »
"If you don't stop it I'm going to rip your arm off and beat you over the head with it!"

(I was famous for NOT bluffing my kids.  If I said it, I meant it, and it would come true.) 
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2009, 06:49:08 PM »
I'm STILL afraid of my momma. :-)
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2009, 06:50:50 PM »
My kids learned quickly that dear ole dad doesn't say things twice.  If there was a 2nd time it came with a whack on the ass, or other age appropriate punishment.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2009, 06:55:31 PM »
My 4 year old granddaughter was here for a short visit today.  She was fiddlin' with my painting supplies.  I told her if she didn't leave stuff alone I was going to take her left shoe off and smack her big toe with my hammer.  She laughed.  Then I got my hammer.  She ran to her mama.  I do bluff my grandkids.

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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2009, 08:03:34 AM »
Quote from: 5412 on March 31, 2009, 05:43:16 PM
Hi,

I love it!

Actually I also find it quite rewarding, (now that all my children are older), when I hear them say the same things to their children that they heard when they were children.    I am trying to be serious this time.

The greatest legacy any parent can do for their children is teach them to survive on this planet, and know right from wrong and act accordingly.

regards,
5412
Abso*******lutely! If that is all you accomplish you have been a successful parent! Hi5!
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2009, 08:08:35 AM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
Screw this.

In our house it is roughly 1942, regardless of what the calender says.


Yep! me too Asdf! Children are to do what they are told! Too many people these days seem to think that children actually have rights....They don't! They have a right to be fed,clothed,protected and guided...That is where their rights  begin and end! IMO!  :cheersmate:
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2009, 08:38:59 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on March 31, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Well, my kids didn't look like that...but they have been known to beg teachers not to call me.   :evillaugh:


When I was in 2nd grade (which was around the early 70's) our report cards had two sections on the back. One section contained a spot for the teachers to make comments for each semester. The other section contained a spot for the parent to sign for each semester. This may be common even to this day. I don't know. Anyway, one semester my teacher, Mrs. Lewis,  put the following comment in her section: Chuck is a good student, but he has a problem with his conduct and tends to disrupt the class. On the bus ride home that day I read the comment and knew that no good could come of it. When I gave my dad the report card my prediction was proved correct.

The next morning I noticed that it took dad longer than usual to sign the report card. On the bus ride to school I pulled out the report card and discovered why. Above his signature he had written: I have had a talk with Chuck concerning his conduct if you have any more problems please let me know. Now personally, I wouldn't consider our encounter a "talk". The belt made some sounds. I made some sounds. But I don't think there was really much actual talking. Regardless, Mrs. Lewis didn't have to worry about my conduct the rest of the year.
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