Oakland cops killed; Beth rejoices, screencaps-worthy stuff

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CreekDog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-22-09 01:31 AM
Original message
4 Oakland Officers Fatally Shot, Gunman Dead
   
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 01:36 AM by CreekDog
Source: CBS 5

OAKLAND (CBS 5/BCN/KCBS)

CBS 5 has learned that four officers are dead, along with a suspect after a traffic stop led to a massive manhunt in the streets of East Oakland.

It all began with the the fatal shooting of two officers during a traffic stop near 73rd and Hillside Streets, around 1 p.m. Saturday. The gunmen fled and police closed off the surrounding streets to traffic while dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies participated in an intense search for the suspects.

At about 3:10 p.m., a SWAT team confronted the suspects barricaded inside an apartment building close to location of the first shooting. Gunfire was exchanged between the two parties, fatally wounding two more officers, and killing one of the suspects.

Authorities say the Alameda County coroner has been called to Highland Hospital in Oakland in response to the shooting but the hospital is not releasing any information yet. The Oakland Police Department is expected to hold a press conference around 7 p.m. Saturday.

They're sort of trying, I guess

norepubsin08  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-22-09 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #14
34. **** THE GOD DAMN COPS THEY ARE A BUNCH OF
   
FASCIST PIGS WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!!!!!

     Don't worry, I capped it.

Ferrari  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-22-09 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. Did they have to go in that way? They couldn't have waited
   
a while to get an advantage? I guess I don't understand the thinking. Dammit.

Yeah, you stupid c**t, it's the officer's fault.

EFerrari  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-22-09 06:21 AM
Response to Reply #33
37. Saddam's sons were not boys, they were men and we murdered them
   
instead of bringing them in. That's probably a war crime but, who's counting.

I was just wondering if these SWAT officers needed to move so quickly, not implying they were in error. Why were there only two (three?) of them if this guy was known to be so dangerous? There needs to be an investigation because something went wrong here. It will be the next on the OPD hit parade. There's something seriously wrong in that department and now it looks like not only civilians but their own officers are paying for it.

Beth, I wish things for you and on you that would get me in trouble here. But I still wish them, you worthless piece of shit.

[Chris]

DUmmies are as predictable as the sun and the moon.  Sad, sorry people.

[Chris]

Ex Lurker (550 posts)     Sat Mar-21-09 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
6. The commenters on SFGate are taking the opportunity to bash Ron Dellums, the people of Oakland,and the city administration in general. I didn't know the Bay Area had so many wingnuts.

dixiegrrrrl  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-21-09 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Wingnut heaven....huge variety of them.

It's all those conservatives in San Francisco.  The city is overrun with them. 

This comment:

Brooklyns_Finest (216 posts)      Sun Mar-22-09 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. You don't think that Oakland is as bad as Philly or Baltimore? I moved here about 9 months ago, and I knew this place was different when in one weekend there were 7 seperate murders. That is some outrageous stuff.

is immediately followed by this comment:

lurky (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-22-09 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. Did he have a military background, maybe?  I would think someone would need some serious firearms skill to kill 4 cops in a standoff. I assume the cops were wearing vests, so it would be even harder.

Yes.  That is the obvious answer. 

[Chris]

Renew Deal  (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-22-09 01:14 AM
Response to Original message
14. If the cops killed 4 armed criminals there'd be 50 posts denouncing the cops.  But there's not even one RIP message here. That's disappointing but not shocking.

EFerrari   (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-22-09 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. Because we don't know the status yet. But thanks for bashing DU for no reason.

norepubsin08  (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-22-09 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #14
34. **** THE GOD DAMN COPS THEY ARE A BUNCH OF FASCIST PIGS WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!!!!!

Irony.  You haz it.

[JohnnyReb]

There should be a national registry of gun/cop haters. Then when a gun/cop hater calls for the police they could be told, "We have an officer on the way........he should be there in 3 or 4 days."

[Lord Undies]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5306695

A different thread - by a Little Goon police officer in Oakland.  Batsh*t Beth strikes a new tone.

[Mr Mannn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5306695

A different thread - by a Little Goon police officer in Oakland.  Batsh*t Beth strikes a new tone.

Well. He claims to be a cop. I shudder to think what a DUmmie with a badge would do.

[asdf2231]

 

slackmaster  (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-22-09 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #118
123. California prisons are so full of drug offenders and tax criminals, there isn't enough room
 Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 10:40 AM by slackmaster
For violent psychopaths.

And that's also the reason there isn't enough money for our schools.

 

SoDesuKa  (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-22-09 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #108
110. Lots of Hostility
 The downside of a politicized police force is that ordinary criminals become political criminals. We don't know how much of a real criminal this Mixon guy was; we do know that the two motorcycle cops that stopped him were taking him back to prison.

It's not unusual for Black guys to get an extensive rap sheet. They're more frequently stopped, more frequently searched, and more frequently run through the system. Mixon's conviction for assault with a deadly weapon may have been reduced to brandishing if he'd been a Caucasian. In any event, the January shooting of Oscar Grant didn't happen in a vacuum. The police in Oakland are accustomed to inflicting violence on young Black guys. This is not unique to Oakland; the same thing happens all over, even in cities with a liberal majority.

There's lots of hostility between Oakland's cops and its Black citizens. This goes back to the 1940's when Henry J. Kaiser recruited Blacks to work in his shipyards. After the war, those people were simply abandoned. To this day they are somewhat like the Palestinians - deprived of livelihoods, they live in a security state.

Nobody knows what to do about Oakland. Ron Dellums, the current mayor, was once a firebrand liberal Congressman but today he's an old man. There are too many Republicans in California to undertake the kind of social change needed to give young Blacks a sense of ownership in Oakland. The white cops stop them, harass them, arrest them and beat them. Once in prison, these young Blacks get more punishment, abuse and beatings.

I knew this was going to happen when I watched how nonchalantly the BART cop shot and killed Oscar Grant. He didn't even reflect on his behavior. He just went ahead and did it. Oakland's political establishment was very slow in arresting that cop. He was out on bail and was fleeing the jurisdiction when he was apprehended.

Perhaps now there will finally be meaningful political change in Oakland. 

 

Taxijazz (1 posts)      Sun Mar-22-09 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #75
98. Problems in society can't be solved by force against a public that may already be suffering
 There is plenty of hatefulness and violence in media, and to say that it has no effect is like saying advertising doesn't work. First of all we should advertise something else--The content of media should not be focused on fear and buying a certain kind of sneaker any less than it promotes favorable social consequences, but messages that lead to good behavior don't draw the attention that media thrive on. Having guns is not as harmful as having thoughts of violence, because you can have violence without guns. Secondly we should realize that police forcefulness doesn't affect public safety as well as good communication could. People only obey laws if they agree, and it's time to find agreement rather than believe that more conflict will bring about some desirable conclusion. Thirdly, if we continue to ask for more strictness and punishment we can only expect people to act so desperately as to create a public safety hazard--high speed chases and police shootouts, etc. With these things in mind if we can't find a way to rehabilitate people, or help them find a way for the first time in their life to become a productive member of society, then we had better find some other way to segregate people than just throw them in prison. If people were treated like they had a disease rather than were possessed by demons maybe we could find a cure. You can't beat a person with a stick and expect that it will make them grow brains. There are serious problems in contemporary society that cannot be solved by force against a public that may already be suffering.

LOT of deleted messages and sub threads already.

[Carl]

Secondly we should realize that police forcefulness doesn't affect public safety as well as good communication could. People only obey laws if they agree, and it's time to find agreement rather than believe that more conflict will bring about some desirable conclusion. Thirdly, if we continue to ask for more strictness and punishment we can only expect people to act so desperately as to create a public safety hazard--high speed chases and police shootouts, etc.

Pretty much saying that the only way to stop crime is to make everything legal.
Typical lib surrender mentality yet they are the first in line to wail about societies supposed transgressions against them.

In short the lib "mind" wants one thing and one thing only....to live a comfortable life free from restrictions and responsibilities yet all the while being pampered and consoled.

Useless,worthless garbage every last damn one of them.

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     The more "introspective" and "analytical" they get, the clearer it is that they're really, really happy that cops are getting killed. They're just adding detail, which is what liars do in the middle of lies.  Any 100-word paragraph on DU about the reasons for cop killings is really longhand for "they had it coming."