To the new "Moderate" faction

[LC EFA]

Some DUmmies appear to be somewhat upset that the current crop of "democrats" aren't screaming whackjob communists.

Proof that some people are destined to make their own life miserable.

TheBigotBasher  Donating Member  (847 posts) Wed Mar-18-09 05:37 PM
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To the new "Moderate" faction. Moderate is something you ARE NOT.   Updated at 7:24 PM
   
It is not moderate to be happy with a health insurance industry that provides Americans with the most expensive care in the World but one of the worst outcomes.

It is not moderate to continue a Prison Industrial complex that results in a higher prison population than China.

It is not moderate to continue a Military industrial complex that results in America spending more on Arms than every other Country in the World put together.

It is not moderate to have allowed a "War on Drugs" to escalate whilst washing your hands of the consequences that war is having on your southern neighbour.

It is not moderate to have enabled a "War on Terror" that has simply achieved the shredding of what you stand for as a Country and more terrorists.

It is not moderate that American workers have the shortest holiday periods in the World and are afraid to use them.

It is not moderate to allow employers to fire workers at will.

It is not moderate that the Social make up of Ivy League universities has hardly changed because education for far too many American school children is underfunded.

It is not moderate to have watched employers cutting pay and conditions on the back of fear that those jobs would go abroad, while enabling those jobs to go abroad anyway.

It is not moderate to blame the health care policies of the Car Industry for the company failures, when that expense is caused by the failure of Government to provide a decent health care system in the first place.

It is not moderate to blame those being foreclosed on when you sold them that dream and did nothing about property hyper inflation as it made people feel richer while their pay was being cut.

It is not moderate to make so many spending cuts to a stimulus budget that you do the work of the GOP for them and the result is that it may be now too small to work.

It is not moderate to go on tv against your own Party and your own budget, decrying "pork", while ensuring that your State gets more than its fair share.

It is not moderate to have been so weak as a Party that is allows Republicans the ability blame the state of the economy on the Democratic Congress because that Democratic congress refused to stand up to their President.

It is not moderate that after the voters elected a Democratic House, Senate and President, to change America you now think it important to stand up to the President.

If you block or water down the changes that are needed in America, you are no moderate, you are every bit as extreme as the Republican candidate that wants your seat and is rubbing its dirty reptile hands at the prospect of the Democratic Party failing, all because you wanted to claim the label moderate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8270128

Guy Whitey Corngood  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Wed Mar-18-09 05:43 PM
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2. I'm a moderate.
   
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 05:44 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
I'm somewhere between the so called "Blue Dogs" and the extreme left. :evilgrin:

"Somewhere in between" in this case meaning adjacent too the extreme left of the scale.

Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Wed Mar-18-09 05:46 PM
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3. I would call myself slightly to the left of center-left.
   
Is that too nuanced?

Yes -Why not have the balls to com out and say what you really feel.

TheBigotBasher  Donating Member  (847 posts)  Wed Mar-18-09 05:57 PM
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6. This all depends on where you see left and right.    Updated at 7:24 PM
   
From a UK perspective, so called "blue dawgs" are far right and the Republicans have no equivalent.

That's a gross exaggeration.

TheBigotBasher  Donating Member  (847 posts) Wed Mar-18-09 06:46 PM
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15. he sad thing is    Updated at 7:24 PM
   
it is not just Republicans that parrot that. Except it just shows their stupidity.

Interesting that Blair, of the (once Socialist) Labour Party is one of their heroes.

Thathcher, the only other Prime Minister they remember increased spending on the UKs socialist National Health Service by 50% in real terms over her premiership.

They claim France is Socialist, yet it has a Conservative Prime Minister.

The hard right of America knows nothing about International politics, hence why Iran, who used to give the US military intelligence on the Taliban, became an enemy.

They do not even understand the basics of what they spout as economics. The Laffer curve is just that, a curve that highlights the optimum level of taxation, where above or below you start doing damage to the economy and government revenues.

You are too ignorant to be worth reading any further.

cascadiance  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-18-09 06:30 PM
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11. "Moderate" is a code word for closet corporatists!
   
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 06:31 PM by cascadiance
Their real agenda is to keep the issues that affect corporate power over this government from coming to the table. They'll voice their opinion on social and other emotional issues to keep the discussion framed there, but be "in the middle" on those issues and be willing to "moderately" bend on them, since corporatists don't really care about who wins those issues. They just care that they have enough congress critters living off of their corporate teat to keep their power over them when the populists start yelling more.

People like this deserve to be laughed at.

leftofthedial  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-19-09 09:31 AM
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20. yet because these reaganistas put a phony "D" beside their names,
   
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 09:32 AM by leftofthedial
we pretend that the "conservative" fascist movement in Amurka is dead.

Call them what they are--repukes. Recognize that Democrats really control nothing.

Do the grownups know you are using their computer ?

[Lord Undies]

I have decided part of the reason the Little Goons are such miserable souls is because everything they think they have figured out is wrong and illogical, they know it is wrong and illogical, and they know the lowest scummiest dumbest conservative in the nation is smarter and better equipped to handle life than they.

It's one good explanation.  We know DemocratUndergroud.com exists to give these mindless fools a place to echo each others unintellectual and downright dull mental pus pockets of disjointed thoughts.  It serves no other purpose.

DU's brand of liberalism isn't only a mental illness.  It's a mental defect without a cure.

[BlueStateSaint]

I have decided part of the reason the Little Goons are such miserable souls is because everything they think they have figured out is wrong and illogical, they know it is wrong and illogical, and they know the lowest scummiest dumbest conservative in the nation is smarter and better equipped to handle life than they.

It's one good explanation.  We know DemocratUndergroud.com exists to give these mindless fools a place to echo each others unintellectual and downright dull mental pus pockets of disjointed thoughts.  It serves no other purpose.

DU's brand of liberalism isn't only a mental illness.  It's a mental defect without a cure.

I beg to differ on the "without a cure" premise--it does have a cure.  "Traumatic lead injection," to the head, at a minimum of 950 feet per second.

[Attero Dominatus]

It is not moderate to be happy with a health insurance industry that provides Americans with the most expensive care in the World but one of the worst outcomes.

Socialized healthcare has the worst outcomes.

It is not moderate to continue a Prison Industrial complex that results in a higher prison population than China.

Because we don't execute people for any lesser crime than murder, and we don't execute people for having dissenting opinions (or harvest their organs but I digress).

It is not moderate to continue a Military industrial complex that results in America spending more on Arms than every other Country in the World put together.

Our country does most of the dirty work, and the only thing terrorists respect is force.

It is not moderate to have allowed a "War on Drugs" to escalate whilst washing your hands of the consequences that war is having on your southern neighbour.

Since when are we responsible for Mexico?

It is not moderate that American workers have the shortest holiday periods in the World and are afraid to use them.

I assume you would like to see restricted work hours? That has a lot of unintended consequences

It is not moderate to allow employers to fire workers at will.

So you would like to see employers waste money on someone who does not EARN their wages?

It is not moderate to have enabled a "War on Terror" that has simply achieved the shredding of what you stand for as a Country and more terrorists.

I don't see you idiots complaining about Obama's shredding of the constitution. I guess its OKAY if a democrat does it 

It is not moderate that the Social make up of Ivy League universities has hardly changed because education for far too many American school children is underfunded.

Why complain, moonbats? Most of the country's education system is marxist.

It is not moderate to blame the health care policies of the Car Industry for the company failures, when that expense is caused by the failure of Government to provide a decent health care system in the first place.

The only thing socialized healthcare results in is death. People who are too much of a burden (usually the old and those who are terminally ill or require constant care) are allowed to die. In a way, it's a form of eugenics.

[Splashdown]

I'll be honest. I stopped reading at the word 'whilst.'

[Zathras]

What the hell do the DUmmys know about being moderate...they're anything but moderate

To borrow from the DUmbass The BigotBasher....It is not moderate to be a member of the Democratic Underground website, one of the moonbattiest places on the internet.

[Vagabond]

The DUmmies want massive entitlemennts, legalized drugs, free booze, and sexual intercourse on their demand.  Basically, they are all a bunch of teenagers.

[Attero Dominatus]

Cant trust em  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Mar-18-09 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. most people who use the word socialist
   
don't know what that means. It's just a big scary word that means something bad.
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Collectivist political systems (such as, oh, socialism) have a track record of poverty and mass death.

[JohnnyReb]

  We know DemocratUndergroud.com exists to give these mindless fools a place to echo each others unintellectual and downright dull mental pus pockets of disjointed thoughts.  It serves no other purpose.

Could you, in the future, please be a little more explicit? .........

[Texacon]

What a load of bullshit.

TheBigotBasher  Donating Member  (847 posts) Wed Mar-18-09 05:37 PM
Original message
To the new "Moderate" faction. Moderate is something you ARE NOT.   Updated at 7:24 PM
   
It is not moderate to be happy with a health insurance industry that provides Americans with the most expensive care in the World but one of the worst outcomes.

If this were true we wouldn't have people from all over the world coming to the US for medical care.

It is not moderate to continue a Prison Industrial complex that results in a higher prison population than China.

Uh, No.  Try again.  Even were it true .... if you have criminals you lock them up.

It is not moderate to continue a Military industrial complex that results in America spending more on Arms than every other Country in the World put together.

Again, not true.  We do spend more than any one country and possibly more than a few combined but not ALL of them combined.

It is not moderate to have allowed a "War on Drugs" to escalate whilst washing your hands of the consequences that war is having on your southern neighbour.

Who gives a shit about southern neighbors who are supplying your children with poison?

It is not moderate to have enabled a "War on Terror" that has simply achieved the shredding of what you stand for as a Country and more terrorists.

Why don't you look at some different news.  Iraq is in far better shape today than 7 years ago.  AND, there are far less terrorists to worry about these days.  Most of them are finding there really aren't any virgins.

It is not moderate that American workers have the shortest holiday periods in the World and are afraid to use them.

This is called capitalism and works wonderfully.  You should try it.

It is not moderate to allow employers to fire workers at will.

Why not?

It is not moderate that the Social make up of Ivy League universities has hardly changed because education for far too many American school children is underfunded.

What difference does an Ivy League school make?  Get your education where you can and STFU.

It is not moderate to have watched employers cutting pay and conditions on the back of fear that those jobs would go abroad, while enabling those jobs to go abroad anyway.

Total fabrication.

It is not moderate to blame the health care policies of the Car Industry for the company failures, when that expense is caused by the failure of Government to provide a decent health care system in the first place.

It is not the job of government to provide you with anything.  Remember ... ask not what your country can do for you ... yada, yada, yada.  Can't quite remember which Republican said this ....

It is not moderate to blame those being foreclosed on when you sold them that dream and did nothing about property hyper inflation as it made people feel richer while their pay was being cut.

The government had nothing to do with this.  It was a little thing called the market and most of those getting foreclosed on KNEW they were buying more home than they could afford but they gobbled up those ARM's hoping to improve their station in life before it adjusted OR they were looking to flip the home.

It is not moderate to make so many spending cuts to a stimulus budget that you do the work of the GOP for them and the result is that it may be now too small to work.

There shouldn't have been a stimulus in the first place.  It was wrong when Bush did it and it is wrong for the 2 'O' did and the others he wants to do.

It is not moderate to go on tv against your own Party and your own budget, decrying "pork", while ensuring that your State gets more than its fair share.

Hey, I can agree with this one!

It is not moderate to have been so weak as a Party that is allows Republicans the ability blame the state of the economy on the Democratic Congress because that Democratic congress refused to stand up to their President.

The Demo's own this one.  Get used to it.  They have ran the show for over 2 years now ..... why isn't the economy their baby yet?

It is not moderate that after the voters elected a Democratic House, Senate and President, to change America you now think it important to stand up to the President.

Because he is wrong and is ruining the country and most intelligent people can see that.

If you block or water down the changes that are needed in America, you are no moderate, you are every bit as extreme as the Republican candidate that wants your seat and is rubbing its dirty reptile hands at the prospect of the Democratic Party failing, all because you wanted to claim the label moderate.

These changes are neither needed or wanted.  You live in a bubble and need to get out more.

KC

[Karin]

Splashdown, I'm with you.  I saw "whilst" then I saw "neighbour" and that was it.  He is a classic Brit moonbat.  They deserve the nanny state that they wallow in.  I "shan't" be visiting.  Cheerio!