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Offline Lord Undies

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DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« on: March 15, 2009, 07:59:56 AM »
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republicansarewhores (563 posts)        Sun Mar-15-09 08:33 AM
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Hunger Strike against AIG

Can we organize? Can we get the media and the administration's attention that we would sacrifice eating until justice be done demanding these mother****ing useless corporate raiders not be rewarded with bonuses for failure?

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The Food Stamp Office will have to close down.....Little Goons On Strike!!!

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rug  (1000+ posts)          Sun Mar-15-09 08:35 AM
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1. They'll just eat your share.   

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MADem  (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-15-09 08:36 AM
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2. The media and the administration are aware that people are pissed off about AIG
All a hunger strike would do is give you a jump start on any diet you might be planning.

It won't "help" the situation. The creeps running AIG don't give a damn if you never eat again.
   

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dkf  (1000+ posts)          Sun Mar-15-09 08:37 AM
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3. They aren't worth it.
My question is when are we getting Kashkari out of this? I don't trust those ex-Goldman cronies helping out their buds.

Up in arms!  Low in calories!

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 08:08:35 AM »
They are so cute when they think that they matter. :lmao:

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 09:17:42 AM »
....and they'll only partake of fluids.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 10:10:49 AM »
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republicansarewhores (563 posts)        Sun Mar-15-09 08:33 AM
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Hunger Strike against AIG

Can we organize? Can we get the media and the administration's attention that we would sacrifice eating until justice be done demanding these mother****ing useless corporate raiders not be rewarded with bonuses for failure?

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Who the **** do you think you are???  Ghandi???
Hunger strike only works if you have value to the people and I doubt anyone,esp. the Obamer,will give your strike a second look beyond the virtual walls of DU. Go ahead hunger away...you will not be missed. Besides AIG is Bamers baby now and if the bonus goes through it will be an indication of how many pockets are being greased in the new dc/chicago hybrid machine

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 04:40:43 PM »
This one is so stupid the rest of them are ignoring it.  :-)
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 06:11:04 PM »
I wouldn't mind seeing a few DUmmies set themselves ablaze in front of AIG HQ. For the record, I think the Execs at AIG are a buncha whores too. A $60,000,000,000 quarterly loss and they're getting multi-million dollar bonuses at taxpayer expense??? You know it's the end of times when I'm halfway agreeing with teh DUmmies on any issue.
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 06:13:41 PM »
I heard it was in their contract.  So they HAD to get the money.  :whatever:
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 06:20:47 PM »
I heard it was in their contract.  So they HAD to get the money.  :whatever:

That's what I read too.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 06:29:48 PM »
I heard it was in their contract.  So they HAD to get the money.  :whatever:

If they were in Chapter 11 they could have gotten out of them. Regardless, a big time bad PR move.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 06:59:40 PM »
WTF!  AIG?

A hunger strike against an insurance company?

I wonder if these stone solid morons were thinking of ADM?

They probably misread the post because they couldn't see thru the crayon scribble on their monitors....
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 07:32:40 PM »
I wouldn't mind seeing a few DUmmies set themselves ablaze in front of AIG HQ. For the record, I think the Execs at AIG are a buncha whores too. A $60,000,000,000 quarterly loss and they're getting multi-million dollar bonuses at taxpayer expense??? You know it's the end of times when I'm halfway agreeing with teh DUmmies on any issue.
Wouldn't that be a hoot...... :evillaugh:
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2009, 07:46:23 PM »
I wouldn't mind seeing a few DUmmies set themselves ablaze in front of AIG HQ. For the record, I think the Execs at AIG are a buncha whores too. A $60,000,000,000 quarterly loss and they're getting multi-million dollar bonuses at taxpayer expense??? You know it's the end of times when I'm halfway agreeing with teh DUmmies on any issue.

We could start up a collection... I've got 5 gallons I can part with. Nice fresh 98 octane.

As for the AIG Execs - fine to do this with company money, when they're not busy having their incompetent asses saved by the taxpayer. It should have been stipulated that a condition of collecting any bailout funding was that these bonus's were delayed until said funding was repaid.

I also don't get why a company would pay a bonus to a entity that had screwed up - isn't that the exact opposite reason that a bonus is intended to be given for ?

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2009, 10:32:34 PM »
Congress's big rudh to save AIG most likely has to do with the fact that AIG insures congress's pension plan.  If AIG doesn't know how to handle insurance, since they mostly insured the phony bets, they deserve to fall.  If the big banks can't figure out how to write off each others bad debts they have on their books, they should fail too.  They've had enough time to sort this out now.
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2009, 10:37:42 PM »
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republicansarewhores (563 posts)        Sun Mar-15-09 08:33 AM
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Hunger Strike against AIG

Can we organize? Can we get the media and the administration's attention that we would sacrifice eating until justice be done demanding these mother****ing useless corporate raiders not be rewarded with bonuses for failure?

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Hunger strike? Can I contribute some money to this cause?
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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2009, 10:38:01 PM »
I have never understood the concept of a hunger strike.

DO _______________ OR I WILL KILL MYSELF!!!!

um.. ok go ahead.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 09:17:20 AM »
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Hunger Strike against AIG

Can we organize?

It seems not.

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I wouldn't mind seeing a few DUmmies set themselves ablaze in front of AIG HQ.

I'll bring the marshmallows.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 09:18:32 AM »
It seems not.

I'll bring the marshmallows.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 02:57:20 PM »
Honestly, I had to do a double take to make sure I wasn't reading DU instead of CC. There were NO strings attached to the bailout funds. Congress wrote the bailout that way. Congress gets plenty of taxpayer funded perks (see Queen Pelosi's jet fetish) and I don't see any collective outrage over them getting extras. The Obamessiah has lavish parties every Wednesday. He's done more than AIG to create generational debt beyond what we thought was possible. So far, I haven't seen any collective outrage over his excesses. If he's going to burden our grandchildren with debt on dollars they haven't even earned yet, shouldn't we be at least as pissed at the federal government? How incompetent were they to hand over all the cash with NO ****ING STRINGS ATTACHED.

But let's wallow in our collective outrage for a minute. Wow, that felt better! I'd just like to interject a different point of view. As an aside: If these were UNION bonuses and AIG said sorry, we can't afford to pay them, I bet the outrage would be the greedy corporation keeping taxpayer money out of the hands of the working man. Corporations like AIG are quite large, they have more than one department. That means that the employees of one department can be exceeding sales quotas, new client quotas, etc. while other departments are really screwing the pooch. Bonuses are MERIT pay, they're INCENTIVES to spur employees to excellence. Many executive salaries have a very low base because profits depend on performance and the "big bucks" are EARNED. It's part of their contract. Hell if unions and their employees don't have to sacrifice (does anyone doubt unions are going to be the chief recipients of the auto bailout) why the hell should nonunion employees? My stepfather was an "executive" (you know, the middle management guys who get their own offices but certainly don't earn near what a CEO does) and we certainly weren't rich. Because he didn't earn an hourly wage, the only way for him to be compensated for long hours (there is no time and a half when you're a salaried employee) were performance based bonuses and raises.

Still, let's pretend these guys are all cigar-smoking poopey-heads who don't deserve one little penny no matter how hard they worked or how many extra hours they put in. I don't see how holding back these bonuses is going to stimulate the economy or improve AIG's bottom line. Were I expecting a bonus that I worked my ass off to earn and was told I wasn't going to get it because congress was stirring the masses up in a frenzy to score a few political points (and keep people from thinking about the reasons all this stimulus can't and won't work), I'd probably think twice about putting in that same effort next year, let alone try harder. Of course, since I'm not the only employee who feels that way, the amount my company earns, and thus its ability to crawl out of bankruptcy is hampered but that's not important. The masses have been able to take it to the big, nasty corporation! Collective outrage is much more important than compensation!

Oh, and since I won't be getting my bonus I won't have any extra disposable income. Some poor schmuck on an assembly line making that big screen TV or new car I was going to buy with my extra money will eventually be laid off because the company can't sell their products. But at least the guy on the assembly line got to bitch about the evil corporation while he's standing in the unemployment line. Oh, and that vacation I was gong to take my family on? Well, I won't be able to afford that anymore either. One less hotel maid, one less desk clerk, one less waiter, one less dishwasher...but at least they too can bitch all the way to the unemployment office.

If we are so concerned about how AIG is running their business perhaps we shouldn't have bailed them out in the first place. The market would've taken care of those bonuses because the company would've gone under, reorganized or been bought out. By the way, AIG was quite successful until they ousted their old CEO and installed a new DEMOCRAT one. Spitzer scared the crap out of the board of directors and the fired the REPUBLICAN who was quite successful while at the helm. You can look it up as soon as you're through being outraged.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 03:37:50 PM »
Cindie - I read through this thread again.  I don't see the CC outrage.  I see a couple of posts with some expressed opinions, and maybe a little misunderstanding, but no outrage.

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Re: DU: Hunger Strike against AIG
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 03:44:34 PM »
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If we are so concerned about how AIG is running their business perhaps we shouldn't have bailed them out in the first place. The market would've taken care of those bonuses because the company would've gone under, reorganized or been bought out.

I agree with this.

Years ago, my company went through a Chapter 11 reorganization.  We were able to continue to pay our day to day bills and regular salaries.   All contracts had to be renegotiated.   Bankruptcy laws are designed to handle these kinds of situations.   Everyone says "we can't let them go under", bankruptcy does not necessarily mean you are going under.  They should let these companies go through the same procedures all the rest of the businesses go through when they get in trouble.  

If there is something salvageable you go into Chapter 11, everything in reviewed, reorganized and renegotiated and you come out the other side.   Creditors are prioritized, salaries are paid, but the top folks in the company can't just take all the assets and run.  If there is no possibility of  recovery then the company is liquidated.

We have existing laws in place to deal with companies in trouble, we should just make use of them.