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Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« on: March 13, 2009, 04:35:21 PM »
The Obama administration today dropped the term "enemy combatant" to describe those held at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and increased the legal threshold needed to detain them.

The Justice Department disclosed the move in a court filing in response to a federal judge's order seeking a definition of the term "enemy combatant."

Judges have said the definition will play a key role in determining whether the government has justified the confinement of scores of detainees who are challenging their status in U.S. District Court.

In a break with the Bush administration's policies, the Justice Department said it would only seek to detain those who "substantially supported" the Taliban, al-Qaeda or associated forces or participated in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The Bush administration had argued it could detain those who provided support to those groups and others "engaged in hostilities" against the United States and its allies.

The Justice Department did not define "substantially supported" in the court papers but said the term would not include those who "provide unwitting or insignificant support" to terror groups. "The particular facts and circumstances justifying detention will vary from case to case," they wrote.

Though dropping the term "enemy combatant" will have little practical effect, it is a symbolic move by the Obama administration to break with the past.

"As we work towards developing a new policy to govern detainees, it is essential that we operate in a manner that strengthens our national security, is consistent with our values and is governed by law," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement.

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 04:54:31 PM »
Instead they will be called cutie pie pookie bears.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2009, 04:59:39 PM »
Instead they will be called cutie pie pookie bears.

Naw.  They'll be called 'Imam', and will be vigorously and assertively leading all of America in prayer 5 times a day.

That, and ensuring that beards are of proper length, and wimmens are appropriately dressed whenever they're out in public.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 05:19:02 PM »
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Though dropping the term "enemy combatant" will have little practical effect, it is a symbolic move by the Obama administration to break with the past.

That's all that really matters to Uncle Zer0.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 05:53:42 PM »
IIRC the definition of the term "enemy combatant" is clearly spelled out in the Geneva Conventions.

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2009, 05:56:09 PM »
So what are they going to be called?  Illegal Combatants is what it should always have been.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2009, 07:15:54 PM »
So what are they going to be called?  Illegal Combatants is what it should always have been.

By Obama?

Probably "brother".

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2009, 07:17:16 PM »
Please tell me they are not serious!! Its B.S. :bird:
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 07:19:18 PM »
So what are they going to be called?  Illegal Combatants is what it should always have been.
I think they are going to start referring to them as "moderate Democrats."  Same agenda and all that.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 07:41:29 PM »
So what are they going to be called?  Illegal Combatants is what it should always have been.

I think they are going to start referring to them as "moderate Democrats."  Same agenda and all that.

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 10:25:48 AM »
The next thing we know obama and company will direct that soldiers and marines exchange their weapons for paintball guns - no longer will they be allowed to use deadly force.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2009, 04:35:43 PM »
The next thing we know obama and company will direct that soldiers and marines exchange their weapons for paintball guns - no longer will they be allowed to use deadly force.


you think you're joking... we were issued paint markers for warning shots in baghdad... this was in 2006

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2009, 08:38:17 PM »
So what are they going to be called?  Illegal Combatants is what it should always have been.

I'd prefer they be referred to in a much simpler more direct term:


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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2009, 08:49:40 PM »
I'd prefer they be referred to in a much simpler more direct term:


KIA

I hope the new ROEs reflect just that sort of thinking.  Can't detain them, don't want to let them live to keep fighting?

Fine just kill the bastards.
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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 02:54:35 AM »
I hope the new ROEs reflect just that sort of thinking.  Can't detain them, don't want to let them live to keep fighting?

Fine just kill the bastards.

AGREE.

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 08:06:57 AM »
AGREE.

My advise to my oldest, if he has to return to the sandbox, will be to TAKE NO PRISONERS.


BSR, if you're a responsible parent at all and you value your son's service, you might do better by encouraging him to follow the lawful orders that he'll be given.

Advising him to "take no prisoners" is irresponsible as hell.

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Re: Obama Administration Abandons Use of Term 'Enemy Combatant'
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 02:06:29 PM »
So, just what is, "is"??
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