Decreased solar activity prompts fears of global cooling.

[Wretched Excess]

Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.

Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.

In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.

As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.

For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.

R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."

Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."

"Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."

In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.

A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.

"The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."

The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."

But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.

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how stupid.  everyone knows that it's my SUV doing it.

[DixieBelle]

TNO to post in 3....2.....1

[DumbAss Tanker]

It will be instructive to see what the trend line looks like 15 years from now.

[Wretched Excess]

TNO to post in 3....2.....1

you read my mind. 

[Bh]

The Sun Also Sets

Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.

Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

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In related news, local fishwrap had a big article saying new studies show biofuels actually produce more CO2 than fossil based fuels, when production, transportation etc. are factored in. Once again we see liberals "good intentions" lead to questionable or disastrous results.

[Wretched Excess]

dup

[Wretched Excess]

BN thread merged with the GD thread.

[DixieBelle]

but, but, in Liberal-land, all actions take place in a vacuum!!! Nothing bad can ever happen when it's a policy the liberals can get behind. If something bad does happen, it's certainly not their fault!!!

[Chris_]

bu-bu-but there is CONSENSUS!!  CONSENSUS I tell you!
(/libtard TNO rant)

[Chris_]

bu-bu-but there is CONSENSUS!!  CONSENSUS I tell you!
(/libtard TNO rant)

...but was it "peer reviewed"?      

[Rebel]

[/Insert DUmmie running around in a circle like a fag.]

[Wretched Excess]

[/Insert DUmmie running around in a circle like a fag.]

 

[Chris_]

LOL!!!!!!!!

[NHSparky]

The sun is responsible for global warming?  We MUST extinguish it immediately!  Immediately!  IMMEDIATELY!

We've got to protect our phony baloney jobs here!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

(Gorebots): Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

I didn't get a "Harrumph!" from that guy!

Give the Goracle a "Harrumph!"

Harrumph!

You watch your ass....

[Wretched Excess]

The sun is responsible for global warming?  We MUST extinguish it immediately!  Immediately!  IMMEDIATELY!

We've got to protect our phony baloney jobs here!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

(Gorebots): Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

I didn't get a "Harrumph!" from that guy!

Give the Goracle a "Harrumph!"

Harrumph!

You watch your ass....

 

(hot bandwidth alert)

[Chris_]

The sun is responsible for global warming?  We MUST extinguish it immediately!  Immediately!  IMMEDIATELY!

We've got to protect our phony baloney jobs here!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

(Gorebots): Harrumph!  Harrumph!  Harrumph!

I didn't get a "Harrumph!" from that guy!

Give the Goracle a "Harrumph!"

Harrumph!

You watch your ass....

Hello boys, did you miss me?

[Splashdown]

Shit!

That means my suburban Philly home won't be beachfront property anytime soon.

Seriously, I figured it would be about 10 years before we had "legitimate" ice-age fears again.

[DixieBelle]

I hate it when I'm right:

Liberal democracy is sweet and addictive and indeed in the most extreme case, the USA, unbridled individual liberty overwhelms many of the collective needs of the citizens. . .
There must be open minds to look critically at liberal democracy. Reform must involve the adoption of structures to act quickly regardless of some perceived liberties. . .

We are going to have to look how authoritarian decisions based on consensus science can be implemented to contain greenhouse emissions.

On their book page they write:

The authors conclude that an authoritarian form of government is necessary, but this will be governance by experts and not by those who seek power.

 http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzNkMTRhN2Y1N2JiNGIzN2Y2OGU4OTBmMzk3NzUwMmE=

Now, replace the phrase "consensus science" with "terrorist attacks" and "greenhouse emissions" with "Islamofascism" and see how it flies in DU land.

[Chris_]

Yep.  They'll severely limit our economy with globalwarming junk science, but howl about the Patriot Act that protects us from known enemies.   

[Lauri]

welll crap.. I just posted a thread in GD about Canadian Scientists who want to jail any political leader who doesnt jump on the Global Warming bandwagon..

now we might be cooling off?

can they just pick a bridge they want to jump off of already??

[DixieBelle]

welll crap.. I just posted a thread in GD about Canadian Scientists who want to jail any political leader who doesnt jump on the Global Warming bandwagon..

now we might be cooling off?

can they just pick a bridge they want to jump off of already??

I think they want to push us instead. 

[Wretched Excess]

welll crap.. I just posted a thread in GD about Canadian Scientists who want to jail any political leader who doesnt jump on the Global Warming bandwagon..

now we might be cooling off?

can they just pick a bridge they want to jump off of already??

I think they want to push us instead. 

[Lauri]

i just sent both of those articles to my prius driving neighbors who moved here from San Fran. ... she is not amused 

[Chris_]

i just sent both of those articles to my prius driving neighbors who moved here from San Fran. ... she is not amused 

That is what you get when you spend your money on a "feel good" car like a Prius....and move to WA.....

doc

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

i just sent both of those articles to my prius driving neighbors who moved here from San Fran. ... she is not amused 

I give it a Bouncy Rating of: 4

Needs more spittle.