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The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« on: March 10, 2009, 04:47:15 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090310/ap_on_re_us/lincoln_photograph_uncovered

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Collector: Lincoln photo uncovered in Grant album

A collector believes a photograph from a private album of Civil War Gen. Ulysses S. Grant shows President Abraham Lincoln in front of the White House and could be the last image taken of him before he was assassinated in 1865.

If it is indeed Lincoln, it would be the only known photo of the 16th president in front of the executive mansion and a rare find, as only about 130 photos of him are known to exist. A copy of the image was provided to The Associated Press.

Grant's 38-year-old great-great-grandson, Ulysses S. Grant VI, had seen the picture before, but didn't examine it closely until late January. A tall figure in the distance caught his eye, although the man's facial features are obscured.

He called Keya Morgan, a New York-based photography collector and Lincoln aficionado, who helped identify it as Lincoln.

"I was like, 'I don't know who this is, Keya,'" said Grant, a Springfield, Mo., construction business owner.

Although authenticating the 2 1/2-by-3 1/2-inch photo beyond a shadow of a doubt could be difficult, several historians who looked at it said the evidence supporting Morgan's claim is compelling and believable.

Morgan talked Grant into taking the photo out of the album and examining it for clues, such as the identity of the photographer.

"Not knowing who the photographer is is like not knowing who your mother or father is," Morgan told Grant.

Grant carefully removed it and was shocked to see the handwritten inscription on the back: "Lincoln in front of the White House." Grant believes his great-grandfather, Jesse Grant, the general's youngest son, wrote the inscription.

Also included was the date 1865, the seal of photographer Henry F. Warren, and a government tax stamp that was issued for such photos to help the Civil War effort between 1864 and 1866.

Morgan recalled the well-documented story of Warren's trip to Washington to photograph Lincoln after his second inauguration in March 1865. Lincoln was killed in April, so the photo could be the last one taken of him.

Warren, a commercial photographer from Massachusetts, enticed Lincoln into his frame shortly after the inauguration by taking pictures of young Tad Lincoln and asking the boy to bring his father along for a pose, according to the book, "Lincoln in Photographs: An Album of Every Known Pose," by Charles Hamilton and Lloyd Ostendorf.

"This is the first act of paparazzi ever toward a president," Morgan said. "Lincoln is not too happy at all."

Historians say it has been decades since a newfound Lincoln image was fully authenticated. And in the Grant photo, it's not obvious to the naked eye who is standing in front of the executive mansion.

You can see the White House, a short gate that once lined the building, and, on the lawn, a Thomas Jefferson statue that was later replaced with a fountain. Five people can be seen standing in front of the building. The tall man's face is obscured, but zooming in on the image with a computer reveals a telling beard.

"Once you scan it and blow it up, you can see the whole scenario — there's a giant standing near the White House," Morgan said.

At 6-foot-4, Lincoln was the tallest U.S. president.

Morgan, who has sold photographs of Lincoln and other historical figures to the Smithsonian Institution, the White House and others, said he purchased the image from Grant for $50,000 in February. It will be added to Morgan's $25 million collection of Lincoln artifacts and original images.

Several historians say Morgan has a good case.

Will Stapp, who was the founding curator of the National Portrait Gallery's photographs department and who now appraises fine art and photographs, said he's usually cynical about such claims. But he said he was "very satisfied that it's Lincoln" in the picture.

"It looks to me like Lincoln's physique," he said. "I can see his hairline. I can see the shadow of his beard."

White House curator William Allman said the photo appears to include Lincoln. "I guess there's always an element of doubt," he said. "It feels pretty likely, though."

Even if it's not Lincoln, it would be among the oldest photographs of the White House.

Lincoln artifacts have recently been hot commodities leading up to the 200th anniversary of his birth, and President Barack Obama has evoked his memory several times for his work to unify the nation.

The significance of the photo is difficult to judge, Stapp said. It does show the relative freedom Lincoln had compared with presidents today, and offers a unique view of the White House from the 1860s, he said.

"We don't so much think of (Lincoln) as living at the White House," Stapp said. "In that respect, I think it's an important find."

On Tuesday, Morgan's gallery Web site was overwhelmed with more than 1,000 inquires and telephone calls about the photograph after history buffs read of his purchase, he said. To him, the historical significance is simple.

"These photos were the last sitting of Lincoln," Morgan said of Warren's photography. "It's the last glimpse of the greatest American that ever lived."



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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 04:54:07 PM »
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great-great-grandson, Ulysses S. Grant VI

I thought that was pretty cool.
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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 05:26:53 PM »
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I love history stuff and American history in particular.
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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 06:07:08 PM »
Cool

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 06:24:37 PM »
Good stuff.  I get off on things like this. 

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 07:16:08 PM »
A little more Lincoln news.

"Hidden Message Found in Lincoln Pocket Watch
For nearly 150 years, Abraham Lincoln's pocket watch has been rumored to carry a secret message, supposedly written by an Irish immigrant and watchmaker named Jonathan Dillon.

Dillon, working in a D.C. watch repair shop in 1861, told family members that he -- by incredible happenstance -- had been repairing Lincoln's watch when news came that Fort Sumter had been attacked in South Carolina. It was the opening salvo of what became the Civil War.

Dillon told his children (and, half a century later, a reporter for the New York Times) that he opened the watch's inner workings and scrawled his name, the date and a message for the ages: "The first gun is fired. Slavery is dead. Thank God we have a President who at least will try."

He then closed it up and sent it back to the White House. Lincoln never knew of the message. Dillon died in 1907." WaPo


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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 07:19:20 PM »
Interesting.
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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 07:46:53 PM »
I was bothered by the post simply because of what was claimed that he wrote. The civil war was not about slavery. And no one, especially a  watchmaker, would have believed that at the time. Ending of slavery was a byproduct of the civil war. Slavery was not the cause. Had the watchmaker inscribed the watch, no mention of the ending of slavery would have been made, IMHO.

I did, however, open the link to read the entire article. It is important to note, if you did not read the article, to know that, yes, the watchmaker did inscribe Lincolns watch. What is said was a bit different.....

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Split into three different sections to get around the tiny gears, was this razor-thin etching: "Jonathan Dillon April 13, 1861. Fort Sumter was attacked by the rebels on the above date. Thank God we have a government."

Still a great find. Very interesting.

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 08:00:09 PM »
I just thought it funny that this came up so close to the new picture found.

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 08:14:54 PM »
I enlarged and enhanced the photo.  It's Robert Byrd. 

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 08:21:44 PM »
I enlarged and enhanced the photo.  It's Robert Byrd. 

Can't be, the guy is dressed in black, not a white robe. :hammer:

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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 08:35:28 PM »
Can't be, the guy is dressed in black, not a white robe. :hammer:

Jonny Cash then??
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Re: The Last Photo Ever Taken Of Lincoln?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 10:52:03 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090310/ap_on_re_us/lincoln_photograph_uncovered

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Here is the picture



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I see it!  I see the shooter on the grassy knoll!

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Seriously, that could be a topiary bush for all we know.