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Offline bijou

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Is VRWC driving down the market?
« on: March 05, 2009, 02:44:08 PM »
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts)      Thu Mar-05-09 07:24 PM
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Is VRWC driving down the market?
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I know that Rush Limbaugh, Jim Cramer, Wall St. Journal, Fox News and all sorts or Republican politicians are blaming the collapse in stock prices on Obama. It's a given that they would (even though the market fell 6000 points under Bush).

But here's the question: Are they just trying to spin the crisis as it happens, or are they actually trying to exacerbate the crisis to make it worse so as to cause Obama to fail?

They can do this by: short selling, margin calling, talking the market down, screaming SELL SELL SELL, sabotaging stimulus plans, etc.

Another possibility: talking the market down is a side effect of their primary goal of shifting the blame from Bush to Obama, and they don't care much that this is causing further drops in confidence.

Crazy? Likely? I haven't seen this theory anywhere, so probably just tin-foil hat. Right?

 

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I hope this is a mole, because otherwise, somewhere a village is missing its idiot.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 02:52:39 PM »
Hey GoesTotheMentalClinic, Jim Cramer is a Democrat, dipshit.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 02:54:31 PM »
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People do not see stocks as a good value. They do not trust business leaders and executives. They don't trust the system and they're getting out.

Business leaders? Really? What got the market to 14K during the Bush Administration then? What constant has changed?
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 02:54:44 PM »
I do with the village idiot theory. When it comes to economics, the DUmpmonkees are all idiots.

On May 19, 2008 Two things happened.  The DJIA was at 13028.6 and Time Magazine published this  cover.


2 days later it had dropped by over 400 points.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 02:55:50 PM »
LOL@you both. The VRWC is not who you think it is, DUmmies.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 02:56:38 PM »
stupid Dumpmonkeys : As was mentioned by more than a few of us here, the market doesn't care about yesterday, It cares about the future. It doesn't like Obama's policies, as its predicted that they will affect the market's outcome in a negative way.

Both Liberal and Conservative market wonks alike see Obama's direction as mostly bad.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 02:57:24 PM »
Rule one--Do not talk about the VRWC.

Rule two--DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE VRWC.

That being said, NYC is 90 percent 'Rat.  Please tell me that everyone working on Wall Street is a conservative, I'm beggin ya.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 03:14:23 PM »
Check this out tosee what investors think of the messiah:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/02/wisdom-of-crowds-and-obamanomics.html

It clearly indicates that when it was decided by the democrat power brokers that Obama would be the democrat candidate and that whatever democrat candidate would be the president the market started to tank.

Nothing to do with VRWC but to do with being smart and forward looking.  Personally I got out of the market after the democra..socialists got control of the congress.  I left some chips on the table but boy am I happy now.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 03:15:54 PM »
Hey DUmbasses, remember....







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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 04:18:39 PM »
Quote from: bijou on March 05, 2009, 02:44:08 PM
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I hope this is a mole, because otherwise, somewhere a village is missing its idiot.

I'm almost inclined to say mole.

The OP has picked up a bunch of words while skimming the internet, that they clearly have no concept of the meaning of,  and has cobbled them together to try and make some screwball theory.

What makes me think mole, is that the DUmmies lap this tin foil bullshit up like it's crack cocaine. Take their 9/11 dungeon for example. Dropping a incoherent, part formed "VRWC" plot into their enclosure is a great way to encourage the real deal nutcases like SLAD and Spooked911 to come out of the midden heap and provide entertainment for the spectators.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 04:24:44 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on March 05, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
I'm almost inclined to say mole.

The OP has picked up a bunch of words while skimming the internet, that they clearly have no concept of the meaning of,  and has cobbled them together to try and make some screwball theory.

What makes me think mole, is that the DUmmies lap this tin foil bullshit up like it's crack cocaine. Take their 9/11 dungeon for example. Dropping a incoherent, part formed "VRWC" plot into their enclosure is a great way to encourage the real deal nutcases like SLAD and Spooked911 to come out of the midden heap and provide entertainment for the spectators.
Maybe at the weekend I'll try and make a model out of chicken wire to represent the stock market.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 04:30:27 PM »
Quote from: bijou on March 05, 2009, 04:24:44 PM
Maybe at the weekend I'll try and make a model out of chicken wire to represent the stock market.

Dont forget concrete and kerosene - they are important parts of the demonstration.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 04:33:00 PM »
OK, who leaked "Plan Black?"

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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 04:33:09 PM »
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But here's the question: Are they just trying to spin the crisis as it happens, or are they actually trying to exacerbate the crisis to make it worse so as to cause Obama to fail?

Spin the crisis??  No dingbat, the market tanking is real, no reason to spin it.  And you can't exacerbate what's going on anymore than you can insure a dead horse.  It is what it is, just a lot of knowledgable people recognize it, know Hussein is making it worse, and are saying something.  Quit crying so much, you voted for the nitwit, and you're getting the hope and change you wanted.

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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2009, 04:58:46 PM »
Quote from: bijou on March 05, 2009, 04:24:44 PM
Maybe at the weekend I'll try and make a model out of chicken wire to represent the stock market.

Good idea - use kerosene and an effigy of Obama to depict how the market has been burned down by the socialists.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 05:05:43 PM »
We have nothing to fear but the incompetence and naivete of the executive branch.


.... Oh and the socialist that is called the speaker of the house.











....and the insane person that is the head of the senate.



Other than that we are great.


just looking for the next world war to take us out of it.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 05:13:20 PM »
You mean it's almost as if the people who actually got skin in the game have gone on one of a general strike in protest of unpopular policies.

Kinda like what DU keeps threatening, only this time with verfiable results.


weird, huh?
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2009, 05:23:05 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on March 05, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Good idea - use kerosene and an effigy of Obama to depict how the market has been burned down by the socialists.

 :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:

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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2009, 05:25:39 PM »
I believe that short selling has been banned for a couple of months now, and most of Wall Street, including the talking heads on the business channels, are Democrats.
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2009, 06:38:58 PM »
Well that didn't take long.  I wonder how the DUmpmonkey's will spin the continued economic failure this time next year?  Any thoughts?
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2009, 06:51:05 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on March 05, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Good idea - use kerosene and an effigy of Obama to depict how the market has been burned down by the socialists.
He said Chicken wire, not chicken shit
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2009, 06:53:00 PM »
Quote from: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 06:38:58 PM
Well that didn't take long.  I wonder how the DUmpmonkey's will spin the continued economic failure this time next year?  Any thoughts?

Well, since truth and reality don't enter into the DUmbass worldview, I will put my money on some variation of...

IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!!!!
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2009, 08:08:49 PM »
Quote from: Ogre on March 05, 2009, 06:38:58 PM
Well that didn't take long.  I wonder how the DUmpmonkey's will spin the continued economic failure this time next year?  Any thoughts?

Not just the Dumbasses but the MSM, if it goes up it will be because the great Obama said something.  If it goes down it will be anything but the current political party's actions.

Why just yesterday it was the market up on China and Obama's housing bail out. The day before it was something other than the socialist policies forced on us in the last 7 weeks and today it was something other than the socialist policies forced on us in the last 7. 
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2009, 11:32:06 PM »
Quote from: crockspot on March 05, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
I believe that short selling has been banned for a couple of months now, and most of Wall Street, including the talking heads on the business channels, are Democrats.

The DUmmies really don't understand whats going on at all do they?

Millions of investors believe that Obama's policies are likely to lower the profits and earnings of the companies they are invested in and are acting accordingly. They believe that harsher regulations, govt control of corporations, higher taxes might just impact these things negatively, and who would say otherwise? The downward spiral is all a logical extension of the policies pushed by Democrats. Maybe after a few bad years people will find ways to make a profit around these restrictions and taxes, then the market would start going up again.

There, maybe they can actually understand that. simple enough???
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Re: Is VRWC driving down the market?
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2009, 05:16:59 AM »
Right now, there's a headline on Bloomberg.com which uses the term "Obama Bear Market."  Perfect description of the conditions now.
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