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Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« on: March 02, 2009, 08:36:41 PM »



MOSCOW, March 2 (RIA Novosti) - Washington has told Moscow that Russian help in resolving Iran's nuclear program would make its missile shield plans for Europe unnecessary, a Russian daily said on Monday, citing White House sources.

U.S. President Barack Obama made the proposal on Iran in a letter to his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, Kommersant said, referring to unidentified U.S. officials.

Iran's controversial nuclear program was cited by the U.S. as one of the reasons behind its plans to deploy a missile base in Poland and radar in the Czech Republic. The missile shield has been strongly opposed by Russia, which views it as a threat to its national security. The dispute has strained relations between the former Cold War rivals, already tense over a host of other differences.

The leaders have exchanged letters and had a telephone conversation since Obama was sworn into office in January, Kommersant said. The first high-level Russia-U.S. meeting will take place later this week, when Russia Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meets with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Geneva.

Moscow has not yet responded to the proposal by Obama, the paper said, adding that a decision was unlikely to be made during Lavrov and Clinton's meeting.

The issue is likely to be discussed when Obama and Medvedev meet in London on April 2 on the sidelines of the G20 summit of world leaders to address the financial crisis. Earlier reports said Medvedev had also invited the U.S. leader to visit Russia and the date of Obama's first visit to the largest country in the world could be announced in the British capital.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090302/120375219.html
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 08:44:28 PM »
Ah, the Poles and the Czechs. The latest victims of the Obama Bus.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 08:44:46 PM »
The Poles and Czechs have to be feeling really good about having us as 'Friends' right about now.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 08:53:23 PM »
The Poles and Czechs have to be feeling really good about having us as 'Friends' right about now.

Hopefully they're smart enough to figure out which political party in the U.S. is doing this to them.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 09:02:48 PM »
he has been looking for an excuse to drop it

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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 09:04:19 PM »
Can`t you see it now...O will take Iran at its word that it is complying,reward Russia,claim to have achieved a great victory and down the road when Putin once again has Europe under his boot we will find out that they secretly aided and hid Irans nuclear program.


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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 09:05:14 PM »
Now might not be the best time to be a US ally.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 09:06:46 PM »
Yep, let's make concessions to an aggressive state that is playing both sides in the conflict for their benefit.

ETA: I knew this was going to happen. Putin is going to play him like a chump. Say what you will about Putin, but, the ol' Stasi consultant/5th Directorate operator is nothing if not cut-throat.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 09:12:30 PM »

the :kumbaya: foreign policy.  what could go wrong?

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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 09:14:37 PM »
the :kumbaya: foreign policy.  what could go wrong?

Let's ask... well the Poles and Czechs. They got the shaft thanks to some guy named Chamberlain about 70 years ago.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 10:41:13 PM »
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The first high-level Russia-U.S. meeting will take place later this week, when Russia
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meets with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Geneva.

I certainly feel much better knowing they have Hillary on it.

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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 03:04:05 AM »
Ah, the Poles and the Czechs. The latest victims of the Obama Bus.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 06:10:40 AM »
Note to Ukraine: Your turn under the bus is coming soon. Make the best deal with Putin you can.

Hey, Baltic states: You are on deck. It's under the bus for you. That's Secretary of State Clinton on line 3. But pick up line 1 first. That one is Putin calling.
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 06:54:27 AM »
Who's going to have balls enough to make the speech this time......"All across eastern Europe, an Iron Curtain has fallen........"
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 07:20:24 AM »
I think that Iran could be like North Korea in a few years. 0Bama will negotiate and they'll give up pursuit of nuke weapons,(wink, wink just like NK did with Clinton).  However, Iran has Israel to deal with , whereas NK had no major opposition like Israel, to take matters into their own hands.  I don't see Israel letting Iran get nukes no matter what other countries might say.

0Bama will continue on the path of appeasement that the left have always advocated. Peace at any price.

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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 08:05:01 AM »
I think that Iran could be like North Korea in a few years. 0Bama will negotiate and they'll give up pursuit of nuke weapons,(wink, wink just like NK did with Clinton).  However, Iran has Israel to deal with , whereas NK had no major opposition like Israel, to take matters into their own hands.  I don't see Israel letting Iran get nukes no matter what other countries might say.

0Bama will continue on the path of appeasement that the left have always advocated. Peace at any price.

Iran doesn't have a border with Israel and is barely within flying range of any kind of strike aircraft the Israelis have, even using every trick known to aviation.  They can pretty much do or say anything they want with respect to Israel short of pissing off or scaring the Izzies so badly that they think they have to show their full hand and play their own 'Final option.'
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Re: Obama 'ready to drop shield plans for Russian help on Iran'
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 11:44:53 AM »
Iran doesn't have a border with Israel and is barely within flying range of any kind of strike aircraft the Israelis have, even using every trick known to aviation.  They can pretty much do or say anything they want with respect to Israel short of pissing off or scaring the Izzies so badly that they think they have to show their full hand and play their own 'Final option.'

I'm pretty certain that is exactly what is bound to happen. I'm fairly certain Israel has a missle capable of making the flight, tipped with several nukes!
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