I've noticed that when lefties complain about "greed", they like to suggest limiting the ability of others to accumulate or generate wealth. They seem to gloss over their own abject greed when demanding said wealth to be redistributed to them with no obligation, achievement or effort.
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 02:49 PM
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F*ck the Dow.... Can Greed Die Already? Updated at 4:27 PM
F*ck the Dow.... Can Greed Die Already?
by kubla000
Mon Mar 02, 2009 at 10:15:05 AM PST
Excuse the rant, i just got to thinking...
the Dow has never helped the middle class get healthcare... instead the continous drive for "profit" created death by spreadsheet.
the Dow didn't give me or you or my mom a raise... instead the continious drive for "profit" capped the income of the working class
the Dow didn't create my job... instead it caused my neighbor to lose his job as it was shipped to India in the seek of "profit"
the Dow won't save my job... instead it may kill it... so today, as it drops, I say **** the dow because finally the greedy bastards on Wall Street are feeling the heat that we've been living in for decades.
more at: Kos Link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5169259
The kaput primitive has grabbed a hold of the stupid stick and hit the dumb ball right outta the stadium here.
Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 02:50 PM
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1. agreed
the dow does not an economy make
The primitives agree with kaput here.
Do they even know what the DJIA is and represents ?
earth mom (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 04:55 PM
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15. When you exploit others to make your money-this is what you get. Karma. nt
How the hell do you make money unless you "exploit others" (yes I know that using "exploit" here is very poor use of language).
crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 03:01 PM
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6. Greed is inherent in all of biology, and it is biologically important.
Greed stems from the need to better oneself, or make one better than other competitors. This increases the ability of the individual, or organism, to propogate and spread its genetics. Animals mate like crazy and nature truly is a dog-eat-dog world. In nature, as in society, the craftiest, best organisms will rise to the top. Now, in the case of society, this is not necessarily a good thing, as it can cause deplorable conditions for those below. But I'm not going to debate the moral goodness of greed; it's sufficient enough to say that it is necessary and sometimes beneficial.
The primitive is scared they might reach the conclusion that "greed is good".
crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Mar-02-09 03:18 PM
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10. The solution is to move to another planet.
In order for the long-term survival of our species to be secured, we need to branch out past the earth. We need to mass-colonize the moon and Mars. I'd be willing to bet that there will be > 50 million people living on the moon and Mars by the year 4000.
Earth First. We can strip mine the other planets later.
hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 03:20 PM
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11. nature is typically not dog-eat-dog
It's dog eat deer or dog eat rabbit or dog eat turkey, but not dog eat dog. And the deer are eating my azaleas. And that wascawwy wabbit is eating my carrots. Greed, particularly homicidal greed, is not necessary. Nor are the craftiest, or the meanest and strongest, necessarily the 'best'.
What the...
You must live in a city.
DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 03:02 PM
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7. Thanks. 30 years of working my ass off (altho, dammit I still have an ass) and saving via 401K and
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 03:02 PM by DrZeeLit
Tax Deferred Annuities (because I am a teacher and our pension is b.s.)... and IRA....just sinking into the sunset.
Great.
Yeah.... "The Dow".... but you know... it's NOT all fat cats sipping champagne.
It's me, and millions of other middle class Americans, who have invested -- and I'll tell you, I did my homework on this stuff.
I'm 57. I hope I can rebuild. But whoa... it's a blow to the solar plexus.
It's my mom, who was an RN her entire life, now 82 years old. Half that time, she worked as a nurse in downtown LA. She NEVER had a retirement plan; later she worked for a doctor in private practice.
As you know, nobody can live on only Social Security. My mom is totally "with it" -- but she can't go back to work.
So, she's home, watching a lifetime of savings go down the drain.
I don't know that she hasn't moved money into bonds; I hope so, but I'm not happy that she has to worry at this stage in her life.
I, for one, am not happy about this.
Maybe you should rethink your rant?
This is a very complicated situation that can't be covered in a blanket rant.
A glimmer of sanity in this post.
leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-02-09 03:10 PM
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9. I think of the Dow as the countdown clock to the end of "American" capitalism
You
will not like the system that would inevitably replace capitalism if it fails. People like you are slaves or dead in such a system.
