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primitives question cooking oil
« on: February 27, 2009, 01:43:20 PM »
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Oh my.

This is the primitive once known as the "Aspie Girl," right?--the teenage slut from Canada?  If so, one's curious what she uses cooking oil for, because she doesn't strike me as the sort who cooks.

If wrong, I apologize to the thunderandrain primitive.

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lightningandsnow  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-27-09 01:24 PM
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Cooking Oil?

What kind do you use? I always see tons of different kinds in the grocery store and I'm never quite sure how they differ from each other. I use olive oil for things like salad dressing, pasta, and the like, and canola oil for frying, sauteing, baking, and/or when I don't want something to taste like olive oil.

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The empressof all   (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-27-09 01:35 PM
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1. For Most Frying I try to use Peanut Oil

I haven't seen any recall notices on Peanut Oil so I'm assuming it's not included in the Peanut Scare. If you don't have problems with allergies IMO it's the best for deep frying and for many Asian dishes. It has a very high smoke point so it can get really hot and give you great flavor as well.

For most pan cooking I use Olive Oil or an Olive Oil/Butter combo. But I tend to cook with Mediterranean flavors which this complements. If I want a less flavorful oil I go with Safflower or if I have to Canola. What is a "Canola" anyway. I'm a little turned off to it because I'm not really sure what the heck it is.

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Lucinda  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-27-09 02:05 PM
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2. Bill is the fry king and he likes canola 

He would probably prefer peanut oil, but we avoid it due to my allergies.

I use butter/olive oil for most everything I do. Occasionally Crisco.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Fri Feb-27-09 02:27 PM
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3. Canola oil gives me outrageous heartburn every time to the point that I need to ask restaurants what they use. If it's canola, I request baked or steamed everything.

I use safflower for deep frying and light Chinese fare. I use olive for sauteeing, the greener and stronger tasting the better.

Now, this is one of those rare times when the usually-commonsensical warped primitive is just being silly.  It must be a woman thing, these occasional random bursts of silliness.

It's just really odd, that the warped primitive is "allergic" to things good for her--such as milk--but not allergic to things bad for her--such as sweet chocolate.

It's just really odd.

Anyway.

The best solution is to cook things with no, or minimal, grease.

Grease kills, and so should be taken in microscopic doses and only if absolutely necessary.

In the refrigerator here is a one-pint bottle of Wesson corn oil.  This bottle is still two-thirds full, and I intend to keep it until the grease therein's all used up.  This bottle has traveled with me from Lincoln to Omaha to one part of the Sandhills of Nebraska to this part of the Sandhills of Nebraska.  This bottle still has its original little white price-tag on it, of 59 cents.  I have had this bottle of grease since returning from the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants; its "expiration date" reads 11/97, but expiration dates are phoney.

I assume it's now classified as "vintage" or "antique" grease, but it's still good.

That is the rate at which one should use grease in cooking, adjusted of course if one cooks for more than just one person.

The primitives have to get rid of their addiction to grease; grease kills.
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Re: primitives question cooking oil
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 07:31:36 AM »
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In the refrigerator here is a one-pint bottle of Wesson corn oil.  This bottle is still two-thirds full, and I intend to keep it until the grease therein's all used up.  This bottle has traveled with me from Lincoln to Omaha to one part of the Sandhills of Nebraska to this part of the Sandhills of Nebraska.  This bottle still has its original little white price-tag on it, of 59 cents.  I have had this bottle of grease since returning from the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants; its "expiration date" reads 11/97, but expiration dates are phoney.

I assume it's now classified as "vintage" or "antique" grease, but it's still good.

That is the rate at which one should use grease in cooking, adjusted of course if one cooks for more than just one person.

The primitives have to get rid of their addiction to grease; grease kills.

You could pass the vintage Wesson down to the next in line in your family or put it on E-Bay. It's possibly its should be put in Guinness Book.

I agree with you on grease but there are a lot of other addictions that will kill you faster then grease.  :hyper:
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Re: primitives question cooking oil
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 08:27:57 AM »
You could pass the vintage Wesson down to the next in line in your family or put it on E-Bay. It's possibly its should be put in Guinness Book.

I agree with you on grease but there are a lot of other addictions that will kill you faster then grease.  :hyper:

There undoubtedly are worse addictions, including smoking.

But I suspect some things affect one group of people (a family) more severely than another group of people.  And my own family tree shows that grease is apparently much more devastating to my group, than to other groups of people.

Refined sugar is another example; a lot of people can handle it, but this body, and those who created or are related to this body, can't, or couldn't.  That's why the last time I had a candy bar was maybe, oh, 1987.

Refined sugar did in many of my relatives and ancestors, and far too early.  Its only effect on me is that it gives me the hiccoughs, and so that's a good enough reminder to me that I shouldn't be messing with it.  (Once in a while I forget, and put sugar on corn flakes.)

On the other hand, since I was a little lad, I appear to be afflicted with something unusual; dairy products, including whole milk, and lots of it, has no effect on the cholesterol or other organs and functions of the body--and this is something that's been watched for years and years and years, showing no averse effect.  Also for eggs; sometimes I dine on six or eight eggs and a whole 1/4-pound stick of real butter in a single day (but in more than one meal, of course).

HOWEVER, I would NOT recommend such a diet for others.

One needs to "listen" to one's body; if something's out of order or less than ideal, after eating something, it's probably a pretty good idea to avoid that particular food in the future.
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Re: primitives question cooking oil
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 04:06:35 PM »
I use different oils for different dishes..

There is olive oil , sesame oil , peanut oil and a "blended vegetable" oil in the collection.

The blended vegetable oil is what I use as a frying oil , on the few times a year that I actually deep fry food.

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Re: primitives question cooking oil
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 04:30:50 PM »
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Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from the words "Canada" and "oil". Canola is a genetically engineered plant (GMO) developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants.

According to Agri-Alternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other animals". (This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the new canola industry.)

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years.
It works very well; it suffocates them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in magazines. It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out.

Remember  the "Mad Cow disease" scare, when millions of cattle in the UKwere slaughtered in case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called "scrapie". . It was thought this was how "Mad Cow" began and started to infiltrate the  human chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal feed, 'scrapie' disappeared. We also haven't seen any further reports of "Mad Cow" since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but interesting all the same.

US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods. The canola supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering
it is no longer  rapeseed, but "canola" instead. Except canola means "Canadian oil"; and the plant is still a rape plant, albeit genetically modified.

The new name provides perfect cover for commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil in peanut butter.

You'll find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There's more, but to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard  gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I.  Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use during the Gulf War.  Check products for ingredients.  If the label says, "may contain the following" and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food processing.

More on Canola Oil

Personally, I try to stay away from oils that contain canola oil. Funny thing, my cholesterol & triglycerides seem to stay fairly low, even with the use of butter & bacon grease.
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