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Offline franksolich

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solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« on: February 24, 2009, 11:34:20 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5121627

Hmmm.

The solar bust primitive from Vermont, the one who uses a converted sun-powered school bus to promote "election reform:"

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Leahy: Let War Criminals Go Free
Feb 24, 2009
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A couple weeks ago Senator Patrick Leahy announced his intentions to set up a “truth commission” to uncover the immoral and illegal acts that took place during the Bush administration - from spying on Americans to illegal torture. Many citizens and legal experts have expressed concerns that such a commission would likely offer immunity to people who have committed serious crimes. When confronted on the Rachel Maddow program, Senator Leahy made the following statement:

“I think because of the fact it’s very, very public and the way they find out about it, it makes it very clear to the next person, you try the same thing, you are going to be found out, you are going to be prosecuted,” Leahy said.

I, and many observers alike have commented - where is the logic here? If people admit to serious crimes and they are allowed to go free, what kind of message does this really send to people in the future? Clearly it shows that they WON’T be prosecuted - the exact opposite of Leahy’s statement. And even beyond what future government officials may think when they’re considering similar acts, it also sends a message to the American people today - that people in power are above the law.

Senator Leahy knows that no one is supposed to be above the law. If serious crimes were committed, those who committed them should to be prosecuted. THIS is the only way to effectively send a message to people in the future. Letting criminals go free sends the wrong message. No one is denying the need for selective immunity being granted to those who have important knowledge of the case — this use of immunity is common in prosecutions throughout our justice system. But offering blanket immunity to everyone who will participate in a “truth commission” sends a bad message to future potential criminals and the American people today.

Last week I expressed my concerns in a letter addressed to Mr. Leahy, who happens to be my Senator. I received a letter back from him today, which was equally disappointing. In the letter he reiterated that the truth commission would not involve prosecutions:

“We need to get to the bottom of what happened so we can make sure it never happens again … People would be invited to come forward and share their knowledge and experiences, not for purposes of constructing criminal indictments, but to assemble the facts …”

Senator Leahy, with all due respect, assembling the facts is one step in making sure it never happens again. But if you stop there and let people go, it does not accomplish your stated goal of making sure it never happens again. In fact it invites future transgressions. If your truth commission takes place and similar acts are committed in the future, I would hold you partially responsible - personally.

rest of article:

http://solarbus.org/blog

The solar bust primitive shot his wad four years ago, during Doug's ex-wife's Great Mischief, and primitives haven't paid much attention to him since then.  Only two primitives showed up at this bonfire, giving links instead of illumination.
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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 11:40:53 AM »
Guess what DUmbass...Leahy is playing you for the fool you are.
There is nothing to be convicted of but he is tossing you idiots a bone to keep you salivating and sending money.
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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 11:54:54 AM »
Quote from: Carl on February 24, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
Guess what DUmbass...Leahy is playing you for the fool you are.
There is nothing to be convicted of but he is tossing you idiots a bone to keep you salivating and sending money.


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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 12:58:35 PM »
Leaky leahy not exactly the exemplary example setter to be going after govt wrong doings. Now if he was voicing these concerns from a prison cell then maybe they would have some weight.
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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 01:05:23 PM »
I think it is fantastic that the leftists are actually calling it a Truth Commission.

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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 06:19:43 PM »
Let me try and follow the DUmmie logic (a hopeless task, I know).

Prosecuting politicians for pretend "crimes" will deter politicians from committing future pretend "crimes."

Yet prosecuting drug offenders, for instance, does not in any way deter drug offences, right?

Something seems off here.
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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 06:21:27 PM »
Quote from: jukin on February 24, 2009, 01:05:23 PM
I think it is fantastic that the leftists are actually calling it a Truth Commission.

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They have been quite open about their intentions
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Re: solar bust primitive disappointed with Senator Patrick "Joe McCarthy" Leahy
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 06:23:18 PM »
Quote from: FGL on February 24, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
They have been quite open about their intentions

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