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Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« on: February 24, 2009, 08:07:37 AM »


Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders
'As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this'

Posted: February 23, 2009
9:35 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Soldier Scott Easterling

A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."

Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on pain of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 250,000 others and sign up now!

Taitz said other legal cases questioning Obama's eligibility filed by members of the military mostly have included retired officers, and courts several times have ruled they don't have standing to issue their challenge.

Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued.

"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said.

Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a contractor.

"I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote.

"I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote. (much more at link)


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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 09:03:14 AM »
****ers got some cajones, I'll give him that.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 09:07:58 AM »
Wow!

Wonder how much trouble he will get into for this?
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:12:36 AM »
Wow!

Wonder how much trouble he will get into for this?

Depends on how much shit his chain-of-command wants to give him.

IIRC, since he's commissioned, his statements MIGHT fall under UCMJ Article 88, which states:

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Now does his statement rise to the level of contempt?  Probably not, but this guy might not want to look too forward to his next promotion party, either.

But also, this is WND--take with a BIG grain of salt.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 09:26:09 AM »
Depends on how much shit his chain-of-command wants to give him.

IIRC, since he's commissioned, his statements MIGHT fall under UCMJ Article 88, which states:
 

Now does his statement rise to the level of contempt?  Probably not, but this guy might not want to look too forward to his next promotion party, either.

But also, this is WND--take with a BIG grain of salt.

His career is done, no question about it.  The only way I'd see him being allowed to stay in the military is if this thing actually follows through to the eventual expulsion of Obama from the office, which I'd say has an extremely small chance of happening.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 09:36:00 AM »
I don't think this guy has any plans of staying in the military. He was 40 when he began training and at that age, he's not going to go very far anyway.

Yeah, he's got a serious set of 'nads, that's for sure.

And I'd also venture to say that this guy's chain of command is going to put a serious hurt on him whether through Article 88 (thanks for that posting, Sparky) or some other means.

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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 10:07:13 AM »
Wow!

Wonder how much trouble he will get into for this?

A lot.

He may as well kiss his career goodbye IMHO.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 10:44:35 AM »
I'm sure the DUmmies are calling for all sorts of torture on this guy.

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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 10:50:50 AM »
If not art 88, definitely art 92 of the UCMJ. I hope that he has the nads to see this all of the way through and MAYBE it will force 0bama to bring forth his birth certificate.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 12:17:54 PM »
If not art 88, definitely art 92 of the UCMJ. I hope that he has the nads to see this all of the way through and MAYBE it will force 0bama to bring forth his birth certificate.

It's just sad that it will cost a Soldiers career to get the man to show it to the public.

You know, that full disclosure and everything.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 12:44:05 PM »
Officers have a duty to disobey unlawful orders.just ask Lt. William Calley.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 02:04:42 PM »
His career is done, no question about it.  The only way I'd see him being allowed to stay in the military is if this thing actually follows through to the eventual expulsion of Obama from the office, which I'd say has an extremely small chance of happening.
Even then he would most likely be compelled to leave.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 02:16:25 PM »
A lot.

He may as well kiss his career goodbye IMHO.

that's kind of what I figured.

I guess he's to be respected for taking a stand though.... :(
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 03:04:52 PM »
Wow!

Wonder how much trouble he will get into for this?

His chain of command is not going to be happy and excrement rolls down hill.  The Lt's career is shot in the goat butt. 
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 03:12:21 PM »
Even if he wins he loses . If he wins he'll be the first LT in History to help bring down a President.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2009, 03:19:24 PM »
Well, look at it this way--what're they going to do to him--send him to Iraq?
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2009, 04:46:28 PM »
As opposed as I am to Obama it is not for the officers of the US military to make such statements in publication.

Where does this asshat think he is: ancient Rome?
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2009, 04:50:07 PM »
As opposed as I am to Obama it is not for the officers of the US military to make such statements in publication.

Where does this asshat think he is: ancient Rome?

Which is precisely why he's going to have his ass handed to him -- in ways he never imagined.
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Re: Soldier doubts (Obama's) eligibility, defies president's orders
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2009, 07:09:16 PM »
This is something a moonbat would pull... :rotf:

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 07:23:39 PM »
This is something a moonbat would pull... :rotf:
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