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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:17 PMOriginal message I was involved in a defensive shooting today Advertisements [?]For the first time, I drew and fired my sidearm in self-defence earlier today. It was totaly unexpected, and I literally had seconds to react. I went from cooking on the stove, to gun fire in less than 30 seconds.It all started, this afternoon as I was cooking supper for the kids, so they would have hot food as they get home from school. As they got off the bus, our young fox hound, ran down to meet them at the bus stop (as she normally does) but this time two large stray dogs came out of the woods and viciously attacked her in my yard, with my kids standing by herI heard the wild commotion from the kitchen, and as I ran out the door of my home, I grabbed my Glock 36 .45 out of the desk drawer, where it stays if it is not on me. As I run across the porch, and across the yard to my kids, who are literally standing a few feet away from our small hound, who is literally getting ripped to shreds by the much larger dogs. As I run across the yard, I scream at my kids to run, and when they get in the clear, I fired two warning shots into the woods right behind the dogs, I could not get a clear shot at her attackers, without the chance of hitting her, so I tried to break up the fight, it worked. They beat a fast retreat to the woods. I was unable to get a good shot at either of her attackers, so they got awayOur family pet, is hurt, I have treated her wounds, the best I can, and she my go to the vet in the morning.I shudder to think, what if one of my young kids had tried to stop the fight, just how badly would they have been mauled?Thank you Gaston Glock, for your fine sidearm, when I needed it's help, it was their, and ready.Now I need to deal with these stray dogs......
Critters2 (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:20 PMResponse to Original message 1. She was "literally getting ripped to shreds" but "she may go to the vet in the morning"...? Hmmm...something doesn't ring true. ===============virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:23 PMResponse to Reply #1 4. Was you their?? She is hurt, she has hunks torn out of her belly, and legs, and the vet is a long ways away...We got her patched up, and she is resting right by the wood stove. ============== Critters2 (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:26 PMResponse to Reply #4 6. If she really has "hunks torn out of her belly", she'd be in danger of Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 07:27 PM by Critters2bleeding to death and/or peritonitis. A dog at risk of those things needs to see a vet immediately. Either you made this up, or you're a neglectful dog owner. And that doesn't even touch on your elegant use of the language. Was I their? Seriesly? =============== virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:28 PMResponse to Reply #6 8. do what? She is not bleeding, that is why...and don't be casting aspersions. We had a plethora of medical supplies on hand (my wife is a trauma nurse, and she carries supplies in the car) as I said, she is well taken care of.Neglect would have been letting them wild dogs "finish her off" =============Critters2 (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:30 PMResponse to Reply #8 11. So, these dogs tore "hunks" out of her belly without causing bleeding? Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 07:32 PM by Critters2They were both wild dogs and skilled surgeons? Really. It doesn't ring true. But you're right. I weren't their
geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 08:16 PMResponse to Reply #5 25. Of course. There is always a perfectly sensible reason why a loaded firearm is easily accessible.
virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 07:26 PMResponse to Reply #2 5. Yep, It works wonders when the cops are about an hour away. NT
iverglas (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 08:06 PMResponse to Original message 21. right ... so ... As I run across the yard, I scream at my kids to run, and when they get in the clear, I fired two warning shots into the woods right behind the dogs, I could not get a clear shot at her attackers, without the chance of hitting her, so I tried to break up the fight, it worked. They beat a fast retreat to the woods. I was unable to get a good shot at either of her attackers, so they got awayBasically, you wasted what could have been essential moments getting hold of a gun that did you absolutely no good whatsoever in achieving the desired outcome in the situation.When trying to break up a dog fight, I think an intelligent person grabs a shovel, a broom, a large piece of lumber, a garden hose ... Who would 'a thunk that s/he might not "get a clear shot" at a particular dog engaged in a dog fight? Gosh. Dog bites man, I think.I'm thinking there must have been a story here somewhere, and I'm just not seeing it.Nah. =============== virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 08:13 PMResponse to Reply #21 23. Wow Iverglas...Some really good ideas their... Shovels are in the shed, 50 yards from the house.Broom?? are you serious?? These where large dogs.Lumber, I don't keep lumber on hand...I buy what I need for projects, and the scrap becomes kindlingGarden Hose?? It is winter...It is put up in the aforementioned shedNo good?? The shots had the desired effect, and the desk the gun was in, was between the kitchen and the front door...
iverglas (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-23-09 08:38 PMResponse to Reply #30 32. o-kay Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 08:39 PM by iverglasEver see even 2 dogs fighting? How about more than 2 dogs? They do not exactly stand still, and it is impossible, not to mention stupid, to reach out and grab one of them.But ...I got a shotgun a week later.... it would be really intelligent to fire a shotgun into that roiling tangle of dogs ...Please don't get me wrong. There are animal attacks that are difficult to end without firearms.There is also no evidence that keeping a handgun lying around the house accomplished an iota of anything in ending the dog attack described in the opening post that any loud noise-making object or act would not have done.Dogs don't actually think: OMG, that was a warning shot that just got fired over my head, better run! Really. They don't.
So, there you have it, folks. Taking a gun to a dog fight will NOT help at all. Instead, take a broom or some water or a couple pots.
Mrs S. I think we need to encourage as many DUmmies as possible to bring brooms to gunfights.
This anti-Second Amendment "iverglass" primitive, by the way, is Canadian, and lives in Canada.The "iverglass" primitive is just really weird, and bears watching for at least Runner-Up in the Top 10 DUmmies of 2009.
Mrs S. I think we need to encourage as many DUmmies as possible to bring brooms to gunfights. :-)
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