http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5090566#5090787Oh my.
Strait-jacket time for the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive:
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:10 PM
Original message
Those racist, lying, mother****ing sons of a sack of shit:
THIS isn't racist?
**** you, every single manager at the New York Buttwipe Post, and the horse's ass you rode in on. You have NO ****ing shame, do you?
It's great, watching Chief S itting Bull rage out of control.
Better than a college football game, even.
The cross-carrying carpetbagging maternal ancestress:
Raven (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. Tell me what you really think, Redstone.
This is beyond shameful.
It makes me wonder just what it takes to get the American people just a little angry...just a tad pissed off.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Oh, good Lord, that IS even uglier...the rotten corpse of racism in America is turning out to be Undead, isn't it? We thought we'd driven a stake through its heart in November, but here it is, alive as ever, stalking around in its stinking, tattered rags, grunting like its moronic, mouth-breathing proponents. It's ALIVE!
Mrs R volunteers three days a week at the local Soup Kitchen, and STILL hears racist comments about our President (apparently from people who don't know that she's half African)...I cannot give her enough credit for the fact that she doesn't go ballistic on them. I wouldn't be able to have such restraint.
Dammit.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Someone here at DU actually DEFENDED that piece of shit? Unbelievable. (Not that I'm doubting you; it's just astonishing.)
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. I'm ready to take names and kick ass. Who, exactly, are the scumbuckets who say that cartoon isn't racist? I'm ready to inform them, face-to-face, what torture my wife had to go through as a child because she's half-African.
And I won't pull any punches, I promise you.
Then another primitive rats on primitives defending the cartoonist, sending the list to Chief S itting Bull.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. Thank you too much. I'll only be able to deal with a few, because I have to be careful about my blood pressure these days, but I'll do what I can.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Read my reply #8. There are actually people at DU saying that cartoon is OK?
Amazing.
I know that DU is a "big tent" place, but that's WAY out of bounds.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
11. Let me at them. Who is it, here on DU, who says that cartoon isn't racist? I'm ready to do battle.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. When someone portrays an African-American as a monkey, it's ****ing racist.
Period. No arguments, no excuses, no bullshit, no evasion. There was NO "hidden intent" there. There was NO "comparison to the actual writers of the bill" there.
Just Simon-pure, naked racism, in such a blatant manner that I never though I'd see in the 21st century.
The cartoonist was calling our President a monkey. Because our President is black. End of discussion.
After which the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive and Doug's wife engage in some discourse, but it's pretty boring, and so I won't quote it.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. But you know what? They DON'T CARE. They're getting some publicity (and it's partly my fault), and that's ALL they care about.
Disgusting, but true.
The cboy4 primitive:
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 03:36 PM
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63. Hmmm. Well, considering President Obama is black, the cartoon is not appropriate and should not have been published for obvious reasons.
No question about it, for a number of reasons -- not the least of which is because there's the whole BART train shooting of an unarmed black passenger in Oakland (by a white cop), still very much in the news.
However, let's be honest and think about this objectively ... let's examine the cartoon for a second without taking race into account.
Political artists almost always tie the issue they've been assigned to cartoon .. this time: (stimulus bill controversy), into a recent news event.
Think about comedians like Letterman -- they try to tie a news event to celebrities and issues. People get it, because it's a fresh on their mind.
The Republicans, with the exception of only three politicians in all of the house and senate, voted NO on the stimulus package. It was a huge nightmare for weeks and weeks.
So that was the idea. Associating the stimulus fiasco with "shooting" it down by the overwhelming number of Republicans.... It just so happens cops had to shoot down a chimp recently.
Perfect! But it wasn't perfect, considering black people are stereotypically associated with apes by a lot of racists and bigots.
Never-the-less, the cartoonist decided to use the chimp as the object of the shooting.
Keep in mind, theoretically, the artist could have drawn a GOP elephant standing next to the smoldering remains of that plane wreckage in suburban Buffalo and said the same thing -- but Jesus ... can you imagine how that would have played out?!?
Ape standing next to the rubble saying, "they'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."
Instead, the artist chose the current event that killed nobody as opposed to 150.
Again, I don't think the cartoon below should have been published because it can easily be, and has been, interpreted as racist.
However I think the cartoon is clever and creative on its own. I do.
Clever, creative cartoon....Bad idea to have published it because of the racial overtones.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. "Clever and creative?" I gotta disagree with you on this one. Even without the "racial overtones," making light of such a horrible situation.
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #65
73. Alright, why is it that nobody had a problem with posting photographs of chimps to imitate George W Bush?
Can't you argue it's inappropriate to use a photo of a chimp in mocking fashion because of the fact racists and bigots associate primates with black people?
Where do you draw the line?
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. That example doesn't work because neither of those names are used to slam minorities.
And again, I've already said the cartoon is not appropriate for publication due to perceived racial overtones.
I say perceived because we haven't heard from the artist and don't know what his/her intentions were and whether he/she is a bigot.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #80
82. The cartoon is plainly American racist. Not only have black people been figured this way for hundreds of years but OBAMA has been for at least the last year. Remember the monkey doll? Remember the t-shirt? The artist has made his "intentions" as clear as possible.
Or those "coon," "darky," "pickaninny" toys the racist babbling sister primitive got for Christmas, that she thinks are so "cute."
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-19-09 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #69
76. I already said it's inappropriate for publication because of the racial overtones.
But from an art standpoint, I think it's a clever play on the situation.
Art is controversial sometimes and it's open to many interpretations.
You obviously have yours and I have mine.
After which Chief S itting Bull goes off to don what he thinks is his suit of armor, but someone fooled him, and it's a strait-jacket......
