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DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« on: February 16, 2009, 09:20:56 PM »
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State of KS employees may not get paid. GOP playing with your life again
   

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TOPEKA, Kan. - Kansas has suspended income tax refunds and may not be able to pay employees on time, the state's budget director said Monday.

The state doesn't have enough money in its main bank account to pay its bills, prompting Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to suggest transferring $225 million from other accounts throughout state government. But the move required approval from legislative leaders, and the GOP refused Monday.

Budget Director Duane Goossen said that without the money, he's not sure the state can meet its payroll. State employees are due to be paid again Friday.

Goossen said the state stopped processing income tax refunds last week.

GOP leaders are hoping to pressure Sebelius into signing a bill making $326 million in adjustments to the budget for the fiscal year that ends June 30.

Legislators approved that bill last week, but it has not reached her desk.

Goossen said the state might also have to delay payments to public schools and to doctors who provide care to Kansans under the Medicaid program.

The state has transferred funds before when it has been short of cash in its main bank account. Most recently, the state issued the special certificates required in July and December for transfers totaling $550 million.

Each certificate requires the approval of the State Finance Council, which consists of the governor and eight top legislative leaders.

The council was scheduled to meet at 1 p.m. Monday, but Goossen said Sebelius canceled the meeting because Republican leaders told her they would not authorize the internal borrowing.


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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 09:24:07 PM »
Maybe that's a sign that the state of Kansas has to many government employees on the payroll.

Maybe fiscal responsibility could start with reducing the amount of staffers each of the Congress Critters has on they payroll.
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 09:25:35 PM »
First Greenbrier says she won't be able to afford gas but then says she'd be okay but many of her co-workers would be crushed.  Maybe she can cancel her cruise.  




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12. we used to get paid on the last working day of the month but our district changed it to the 20th
   
to stop the 6 week gaps during christmas and other months
just so happens that this month our payday is Friday
if I don't get paid, I can't afford gas to get to work
groceries
my house payment my vehicle payment ect...........


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13. if we don't get paid, we will be okay for a month or two
   
but many of my co-workers would be crushed

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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 09:35:02 PM »
OH NOES!!!111!!!

It is about time that the governments start trimming the fat like the private sector has had to do for the last year.  Here in california the unions are suing to not go on furlough.  In my own city the communist at the council have given the locals days of ...but... wait...GIVEN THEM ALL PAY RAISES  so they make the same amount but work less.

Seriously WHAT THE ****???

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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 09:44:30 PM »
I'm in Texas - I think I'll just stay put in the hopes we will secede from the US. 


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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 09:46:43 PM »
I'm in Texas - I think I'll just stay put in the hopes we will secede from the US. 


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I wish we hadn't take that option out of the Constitution.
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 09:54:43 PM »
I wish we hadn't take that option out of the Constitution.

Thank God SOMEONE from Texas recognizes that.  I have spent far too much time battling the old Urban Myth about Texas' alleged unique secession rights.

But I am your way to man the barricades -- and there are those here who don't think I really am but I am. We are already selling off things we don't need and next month or so I will *sob* sell my wife's (OK: MY) sports car as we prepare to relocate.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 10:06:55 PM »
Thank God SOMEONE from Texas recognizes that.  I have spent far too much time battling the old Urban Myth about Texas' alleged unique secession rights.


If memory serves it was removed in 1954.

I also saw something on TV one time that said if Texas seceded today we'd be the 10th largest oil producing nation in the world.
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 10:48:05 PM »
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Thank God SOMEONE from Texas recognizes that.  I have spent far too much time battling the old Urban Myth about Texas' alleged unique secession rights.

But I am your way to man the barricades -- and there are those here who don't think I really am but I am. We are already selling off things we don't need and next month or so I will *sob* sell my wife's (OK: MY) sports car as we prepare to relocate.


And here I thought we could secede at anytime we want.  Oh well.  My husband says seal off the borders - north, south, east, and west - and let's carry on like our own country. 

For the first time in 14 years, we are taking our full federal tax refund instead of carrying it over to 2009 for my small business taxes.  We'll pay them quarterly if necessary and pay the very minimum so as not to give the IRS anything extra. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 11:03:20 PM »

And here I thought we could secede at anytime we want.  Oh well.  My husband says seal off the borders - north, south, east, and west - and let's carry on like our own country. 

For the first time in 14 years, we are taking our full federal tax refund instead of carrying it over to 2009 for my small business taxes.  We'll pay them quarterly if necessary and pay the very minimum so as not to give the IRS anything extra. 

That is a very good idea. I am waiting for someone with some BALLS to sue California (and now Kansas) for illegal conversion.  Not giving people their tax refunds is stealing those people's money.  The State has zero claim on it.  If that happens to me, it will be ME with those balls.

And I am sorry to burst you independence bubble. :(


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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 12:22:29 AM »
First Greenbrier says she won't be able to afford gas but then says she'd be okay but many of her co-workers would be crushed.  Maybe she can cancel her cruise.  

*snicker*

If she practiced what she preaches she'd cash in the cruise and redistribute the proceeds among those coworkers that are going to be crushed.

Now how likely is that to happen..

*crickets*

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 05:23:28 AM »
If memory serves it was removed in 1954.

I also saw something on TV one time that said if Texas seceded today we'd be the 10th largest oil producing nation in the world.

There was an article on OpinionJournal.com a couple of years ago that, when the Republic of Texas joined the United States of America, the option for Texas to becaome as many as six states was given to it--and it has not been revoked, from what I remember of the article.  The House Representatives would probably stay the same, but can you imagine Dingy Harry Reid's face if there were suddenly ten new Senators from what used to be Texas--and they were all Republicans?
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 07:20:41 AM »
There was an article on OpinionJournal.com a couple of years ago that, when the Republic of Texas joined the United States of America, the option for Texas to becaome as many as six states was given to it--and it has not been revoked, from what I remember of the article.  The House Representatives would probably stay the same, but can you imagine Dingy Harry Reid's face if there were suddenly ten new Senators from what used to be Texas--and they were all Republicans?


I think I would hitchhike to D.C. just to see Harry Reid's reaction in person if that were to happen.  And I'd make sure I was really sweaty and stinky so I could be one of those smelly tourists he despises so much.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 07:47:58 AM »
There was an article on OpinionJournal.com a couple of years ago that, when the Republic of Texas joined the United States of America, the option for Texas to becaome as many as six states was given to it--and it has not been revoked, from what I remember of the article.  The House Representatives would probably stay the same, but can you imagine Dingy Harry Reid's face if there were suddenly ten new Senators from what used to be Texas--and they were all Republicans?

5 states but that isn't going to happen: http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2009, 09:05:55 AM »
Who's the Republican governor of Kansas, again?

The governor of the greenbriar primitive's state?

Why isn't this Republican governor, whose name I don't know, cooperating with the Republican legislature down there, to get this resolved?
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2009, 02:38:43 PM »
I saw this at NRO

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The Drudge-driven story in Kansas, that state tax returns are on hold, is, of course, not what it seems. The state is not really going to stop funding schools, close the hospitals, and start starving old folks, as local news reports have suggested.

Instead, the story is an example of Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius's skill at playing the Kansas media the way Joshua Bell saws a fiddle — while the state GOP plays it like Cap'n Hook.

The state's broke and, like many of us, has been living on credit. It's against the law in Kansas to run up a deficit — and Sebelius has pushed that deficit to record levels — but when things get tight, there's a legal way to gain a little change to get by.

Sebelius knew about this coming shortfall because the state legislature has been telling her about it for months. Instead of following the rules, she let the clock run out, cancelled a meeting to discuss the problem with legislative leaders, and then sent out a press release claiming the poor would soon die because Republicans had made her stop sending people their tax refunds. The press did the rest.

But as Kansas House Speaker Mike O'Neal, an expert in state constitutional law, told Kansas Liberty, a statewide news site, "Kansas for years has had on the books procedures a governor can follow in times like these, but she's refused to exercise those options, to the detriment of the state. She's better than that." What Sebelius wanted the lawmakers to do, he said, was against the law.

Her motive? A budget bill has to be signed, and it contains cuts in programs Sebelius likes. Critics say she's trying to buy time and will sit on the budget for as long as possible once it crosses her desk, something she herself has promised to do, saying she's worried about "errors" in the budget. The budget she proposed, meanwhile, would have resulted in an illegal deficit of many millions of dollars.

Meanwhile, O'Neal's encouraging state employees who are worried about getting their paychecks to call the governor. 

"They’re capable of making payroll if they choose to do it," O’Neal said.



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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2009, 02:52:51 PM »
Who's the Republican governor of Kansas, again?

The governor of the greenbriar primitive's state?

Why isn't this Republican governor, whose name I don't know, cooperating with the Republican legislature down there, to get this resolved?

Mostly because she's an idiot DUmbocrat!
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2009, 02:58:42 PM »
Who's the Republican governor of Kansas, again?

The governor of the greenbriar primitive's state?

Why isn't this Republican governor, whose name I don't know, cooperating with the Republican legislature down there, to get this resolved?

Why those mean ol Republican seeing that the state is broke think there should be spending cuts. The Bastiches.  :evillaugh:
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2009, 03:12:04 PM »
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The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life! 

Somebody isn't paying attention to the VRWC schedule.  Greenbriar's life wasn't supposed to be on the verge of being ruined until January 2010 at the earliest.  Until then, she was supposed to just be in "dire financial straits".  The January 2010 execution date was set to force her to accept charity from Sparkly, where she'd be sleeping on a surplus army cot in Stinky the Clown's basement hovel, thus relegating Stinky even further down the pecking order in his household.

Teh Rove will be most displeased with this departure from the plan.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2009, 03:13:47 PM »
Somebody isn't paying attention to the VRWC schedule.  Greenbriar's life wasn't supposed to be on the verge of being ruined until January 2010 at the earliest.  Until then, she was supposed to just be in "dire financial straits".  The January 2010 execution date was set to force her to accept charity from Sparkly, where she'd be sleeping on a surplus army cot in Stinky the Clown's basement hovel, thus relegating Stinky even further down the pecking order in his household.

Teh Rove will be most displeased with this departure from the plan.

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2009, 04:08:48 PM »
Hey, I'm all for the ruining of Greenbriars, and any other DUmmy's life. Any pain and suffering that befalls a DUmmy and their friends and family is music to my ears and the more painful the event the better. I want them to suffer. I want them in pain. They are my enemies and deserve nothing less.
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Re: DU: The GOP Is Ruining Greenbrier's Life!
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2009, 04:55:49 PM »
Somebody isn't paying attention to the VRWC schedule.  Greenbriar's life wasn't supposed to be on the verge of being ruined until January 2010 at the earliest.  Until then, she was supposed to just be in "dire financial straits".  The January 2010 execution date was set to force her to accept charity from Sparkly, where she'd be sleeping on a surplus army cot in Stinky the Clown's basement hovel, thus relegating Stinky even further down the pecking order in his household.

Teh Rove will be most displeased with this departure from the plan.

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Damnit, I hate when people jump the gun. It's only 10 months people! Stick to the schedule!

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2009, 05:01:44 PM »
*snicker*

If she practiced what she preaches she'd cash in the cruise and redistribute the proceeds among those coworkers that are going to be crushed.

Now how likely is that to happen..

*crickets*


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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2009, 05:03:55 PM »
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How many effin' times do I have to say this?

OPSEC!!!!!

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I just killed 30 more hairs because of you two!  (Yes, they're "hairs."  Every hair is sacred . . . well, sorta, because I'm not in Hair Club or taking any hair growth stuff.  If it falls out on its own, that's life.)

Hey, I'm just calling attention to the screw up.  That op was blown wide open the moment some dumbass went for broke in the Kansas Legislature, instead of following Teh Rove's master plan.  Whatever happened to "working behind the scenes", huh?  Invite some Kansas hayseed noob into the Conspiracy, and all of a sudden he tripping over his own feet, thinking he's double-O friggin' 7 on 'roids or somethin'.

OpSec starts with doing the friggin' job right the first damned time.  That's all I'm sayin'.
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2009, 05:11:23 PM »
My bad.  :thatsright:
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