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Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« on: February 08, 2009, 06:40:10 PM »
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DemocratSinceBirth  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 07:07 AM
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Why Do Republicants Hate Education?

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prostock69  (323 posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 11:47 AM
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21. And there are less likely to be religious and be controlled by dogma
 which in turn, makes it harder to control them.


This guy has me stumped. Which party is it again that is all about "control" through thought crime, progressive tax, death tax, economic regulation, minimum wage, maximum wage, anti-free trade, nationalization of banks, health care, energy etc etc, trans fat banning, smoking bans, telling you who you can hire, telling you how big a house you can own and how many and how you heat them and cool them and what kind of car you can drive and it's milage and who you can buy it from and on and on and on and on... (sorry I have to move on)

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WinkyDink  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 07:14 AM
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4. Because they don't want the cogs to realize the wheel.


Deep. Or, it would be if it meant something anyway.

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bridgit  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 11:01 AM
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15. Cause they only need Americans able to change a bit in a cordless drill *while* not knowing anything
 It's a delicate balance and education only disrupts it
 

Callous disrespect of the working man? Check!

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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 11:05 AM
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16. More educated tend to become Democrats. nm


Interesting word usements you structure.

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ensho (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 11:53 AM
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23. propaganda and subliminal ads work better on the undereducated
 nt


Thank God for our propaganda free Public Schools then!

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Mass  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 11:54 AM
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25. Because educated people can fight better for their interests.
 Keeping the working class uneducated is the clue to keeping the system as it is.


It's the clue? Really? The clue you say.

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Numba6 (26 posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 12:59 PM
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27. mmmm Tax Cuts....
 But A Tax Cut Won't Educate Your Child


No it will not. It does not depend at all on what you spend your tax cut on now does it?

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Cha  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 01:34 PM
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30. That's an easy one..
 They want to keep people dumbed down. And, their base, the corporatemediawhores will do that for them.


Corporate media whores Cha. It's three words.

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LWolf  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 01:45 PM
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32. Independent thinkers don't follow the herd. nt


Said someone posting on, wait for it........  DU!

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K Gardner  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-08-09 03:13 PM
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37. Their kids are either in private "christian" schools or home-schooled.


This is your answer to the question, "Why do Republicans hate education"???

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Pisces  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 03:41 PM
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38. THey celebrate ignorance and fear intelligence.


That's an F Pisces. Next time show your work. See me after class! Also, astrology is pseudoscience crap.

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PurityOfEssence  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 06:29 PM
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43. It levels the playing field
 Competition is a bummer.

Cool. I found DU's lone surviving capitalist!!
 















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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 06:42:04 PM »
Oh my.

Rarely have so many primitives gotten so many things all wrong.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 06:45:06 PM »
This guy has me stumped. Which party is it again that is all about "control" through thought crime, progressive tax, death tax, economic regulation, minimum wage, maximum wage, anti-free trade, nationalization of banks, health care, energy etc etc, trans fat banning, smoking bans, telling you who you can hire, telling you how big a house you can own and how many and how you heat them and cool them and what kind of car you can drive and it's milage and who you can buy it from and on and on and on and on... (sorry I have to move on)

How else would they learn these things are "acceptable" and part of the "natural order" if not for indoctrination in a liberal education system

They're only upset because they're too stupid to realize that the dogma in education is their own.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 06:51:32 PM »
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25. Because educated people can fight better for their interests.
 Keeping the working class uneducated is the clue to keeping the system as it is.

But I thought all the working class people voted Democrat and the rich bastards voted Republican?!? 

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 06:52:40 PM »
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backscatter712  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 07:00 PM
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45. Because they want us stupid.
 They want a nation of Joe The Plumbers. (I'm OK with that)

Smart people ask questions.(Like, "Your going to raise my taxes aren't you?") Smart people make demands. (Like, "Hands off my wallet hippy!") Smart people push for their own piece of the pie. (No, smart people earn it.) They demand fair wages, a middle class lifestyle, good education for their kids, decent heatlh care. (No. Again, they earn, earn, earn and earn it.)

They don't want smart. They want stupid. (Pure projection. It's you guys against anyone getting a non-union education)

Stupid people are serfs. (Yes. Yes you are. Good luck with that)


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"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 06:59:25 PM »
WOW! Just WOW!
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2009, 07:52:18 PM »
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Why Do Republicants Hate Education?

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cherish44 (206 posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 01:32 PM
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29. Their base is uneducated white people
 Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 01:32 PM by cherish44
nuff said.

And yet...

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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-08-09 08:47 AM
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7. Air America is losing ground in some markets, I believe, because
 Progressives have jobs actually requiring attention. How many teachers, nurses, factory workers, clerical personnel, or retail workers can keep the radio on during the day? "Management" can pretty much do what it wants, when it wants, including listening to conservative talk-radio.



The republican base is uneducated white people...that are all in management.  OK!!   ::) :lmao:

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 08:04:03 PM »
We don't hate education.

We hate what Libs have turned the education system into.

Big difference.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 09:29:57 PM »
We don't hate Education. In fact most condervatives are smarter then you Douchbags. We hate wasting good money on people that refuse to learn. They would rather deal drugs and destroy your childs life with them and other crimes. We also don't think that just because some asshole came across the border he has a right to free education at OUR taxpayers expense. 65 BILLION in tax nmoney goes to fund Illeagle aliens for not other reason then to make you ****heads feel good. If you want to waste money so bad you use your own DON"T use money that  belongs to the people of the US.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 09:46:31 PM »
Public education is a great idea, maybe someday we will have it here instead of the wasteful, partisan group-think factories that pretend to the title now.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2009, 10:02:41 PM »
The more I read the execrable drivel from the DU and read and hear similar things from the advocacy/adversary media, the more I realize that unity is no longer possible in America.

Thanks to the Clintons, then John Edwards, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Paul Begala, among others, as well as Barack Obama and his campaign and the advocacy/adversary media, the fracture is complete.

They fought hard to unleash the hatred that comes from cesspools such as DU, Daily Kos and others.

In doing so, they unmasked the religous, educational, gender and social racists that the Democrats, liberals and leftists became some time ago and still are.

And they cannot put, even if they wanted, those black-hearted genies back into the bottles from which they came.

Because hatred begets hatred. And racism of any sort begets more of the same.

As humans, these people are embarrassing. And dangerous.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
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16. More educated tend to become Democrats. nm

No, but more drop-outs tend to become Democrats.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2009, 01:39:31 AM »
Dear Dummies,

Since all of your responses were pretty much the same, I'm assuming you were all educated in the public schools. The propaganda obviously works. So, let's have a little history lesson shall we? America didn't even have a public education system until the mid 1800's. Even then it was only mandatory in certain states. Massachusetts was the first, like that's a surprise. A group that included Horace Mann, John Dewey (considered the father of modern education), and the guy who thought up kindergarten whose name escapes me now, were greatly influenced by the SOCIALIST Prussian system of forced education. See, the SOCIALIST Prussian government believed if they could get children at an early enough age they would have a docile, obedient populace that would do whatever their government wanted. The SOCIALIST Prussian government believed individual thinking was dangerous.

You see, John Dewey isn't just the hero who made shelving library books easier, he and the education system he created is a very dangerous threat to our democracy. Unlike you "free thinkers" at DU, he believed (for a man who wasn't religious he said "I believe" an awful lot), “The mere absorption of facts and truths is so exclusively an individual affair that it tends very naturally to pass into selfishness. There is no obvious social motive for the acquirement of mere learning, there is no clear social gain in success thereat.” That was one of my favorite tag lines when I was homeschooling because it reminded me why I would NEVER put my child back in public school. But if that's too nuanced for you DUmmies try this: "Children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming where everyone is interdependent." I won't even go into his admiration of Marx, his drafting of the Humanist Manifesto, or his role in the founding of the NEA because you'd probably think all that's just peachy.

His objection to having religion (i.e. The Bible) taught in school is because it promoted critical thinking. He believed history was unimportant because what other people did in the past had nothing to do with today. He's been pretty successful at that too, since in most schools social studies has replaced American History. I'll never forget, one day when we were discussing WWII, one of Jake's friends from public high school was over. Jake was telling me about one of the tougher battles in the Pacific Theater. His friend said, "Well, why didn't they just send in Teddy Roosevelt and the rough riders." To this day I shake my head when I think about it because this is a pretty sharp kid. And it's sad, really. It's hard to understand how truly exceptional your country is when you have no understanding of the INDIVIDUALS who helped shape her. I wanted more than that for my children and was lucky enough to be able to give them the education I thought they needed. I don't hate education. I hate government schools.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2009, 02:26:52 AM »
I'll remember how much I hate education when I apply to graduate school in a couple of years.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2009, 05:18:44 AM »
It's amazing how narrow-witted and dim sighted these fools are.  Redstatecka, welcome to the party.  I realized that no unification is possible any longer some time ago.  If we wish to remain one country then each side is going to have to agree to go back to a states-right intrepretation of the constitution and agree to leave the other side alone for the most part.

Liberals, and other assorted statists, won't content themselves with that.  No, now we have a situation where one side will gain power and attempt to wield it over the other side at the Federal level.  History instructs that this can not, and will not hold.

This is dominant in education where the NEA and school districts target homeschooling because it directly affects how much funding they get from the federal government.  They don't care about the education of the our children.  They only care that an empty seat is money out of their pocket.  The entire system needs to be highly privatized.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 05:43:01 AM »


 :whatever:


Yeah, that was a good one wasn't it Rearden? While championing the working man, the simultaneously insult him as if to say it would be a terrible world if it was full of "Joe the Plumbers".  :thatsright: Elitist pricks and I bet half over there that are educated use their education for exactly NOTHING while they type away their screeds on DU ie the working guy is far more productive then their big, gigantic educated heads put together.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 07:12:24 AM »
I've said, after my exposure to PhD.'s every day for thirteen years while I worked in the lab, that as knowledge trickles into one ear, common sense flows out of the other at a pressure that most big cities would be proud to have in their firehoses.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 07:35:07 AM »
Lot of damn projection in that thread. Tell me DUmmies, since education moved from being controlled by local areas to a prop used and controlled by the national left, where have educational standards moved, down or up? If you say up, well, I guess we really know who "hates" education.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 07:55:45 AM »
Hey DUmmies, do you know the definition of a Republican?




A Democrat who's been mugged by reality.

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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 09:07:24 AM »
Republicans hate indoctrination and brainwashing not education.
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Could environmental education be crossing into environmental indoctrination? Some critics say yes, as schools boast that such curricula simply is teaching children ways of caring for the earth.

Being a "good" student at Western Avenue Elementary School in Flossmoor, Ill., means more than just doing reading, writing and arithmetic well. It also means trying to save the planet.

"It's really important to help the earth and save the polar bears," 9-year-old Duree Everett said, as she colored a "go green" sign at her desk.

The students are taking part in what's called "National Green Week," organized by the Green Education Foundation. Schools across the country are encouraged to teach children about recycling, global warming and carbon footprints.

"It's important to start creating habits now, while children are young, because it can add up over a lifetime to make huge monumental consequences to the environment," said Victoria Waters, president of the Green Education Foundation.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 09:13:38 AM »
"president of the Green Education Foundation."....is that another made-up position for the sole purpose of getting a salary....you know like..... "community organizer"
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 09:52:55 AM »
Consevatives dont hate education, DUmmies. We hate what the left has done to it. Tell me DUmmies, for how may years have we, the taxpayers, been throwing money at the school system? Yet we are told it's never good enough. At what point do you wake up and realize that state-sponsored education is and has been an abject failure?
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 12:46:11 PM »
I've said, after my exposure to PhD.'s every day for thirteen years while I worked in the lab, that as knowledge trickles into one ear, common sense flows out of the other at a pressure that most big cities would be proud to have in their firehoses.

Been there, seen that, with Ph.D.s -- my post-Masters' and two professional registrations and publicatons still weren't good enough for their union -- in government and private industry.

Great comment re: pressure. H5.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 12:49:19 PM »
Republicans hate indoctrination and brainwashing not education.FNC


To liberals, indoctrination and brainwashing ARE education.  Then again, they can't understand the difference between God and religion either.
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Re: Why Do Republicants Hate Education?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 01:02:48 PM »
To liberals, indoctrination and brainwashing ARE education.  Then again, they can't understand the difference between God and religion either.

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