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Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« on: February 02, 2009, 08:11:17 AM »
Like an aborted child born alive Obama is leaving Karzai in the broom closet to die from exposure:

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Officials in the US State Department, Department of Defence and National Security Council are now openly questioning Mr Karzai's ability to rein in corruption, improve law and order and confront the warlords who control the country's deadly opium trade.

Sources close to the U.S administration last night denied they will pressurise President Karzai to stand down but said they will offer tacit support to candidates standing against him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/4388351/Barack-Obama-abandons-Afghan-President-Hamid-Karzai.html

That man literally fought side-by-side with our Special Forces  to free his country and was wounded in a friendly-fire incident.

And Pony McHope-coke doesn't even have the slightest clue as to who would be a better president; just some nebulous notion of "tacit support to candidates standing against him". They want to trade a man that bled beside our very best for whatever schmuck bribed his way up the ladder?

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 08:26:28 AM »
That bus under which he's been throwing people must be one of those deals that features a trailer - you see 'em in Europe.

Karzai is just one in a long line of speedbumps.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 08:27:30 AM »
Shah of Iran....Jimmy Carter....anybody??????????
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 08:28:16 AM »
Shah of Iran....Jimmy Carter....anybody??????????

I don't think Karzai is a cancer patient.

Yet.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 08:29:18 AM »
I wonder if Jimmy Carter will live another 4 yrs. Long enough to see his stock in trade rise from being the worst U.S. President in history to being the 2nd worst behind the Obambler.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 08:30:10 AM »
I don't think Karzai is a cancer patient.

Yet.

He was undermined before he became a cancer patient.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 08:32:13 AM »
Wasn't an ambassador kidnapped in Pakistan yesterday?......Jimmy C. all over again.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 08:43:36 AM »
He was undermined before he became a cancer patient.

True dat.  :bow:

Once he was diagnosed, the Shah went fairly quickly. Seems it was pretty seamless, i.e., his having been thrown under the Carter bus and the diagnosis and eventual exile to Egypt, but that was not the case.

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 12:43:24 PM »
Sudden reversals of policy like this are why the US is a dangerous foe, if one with a limited attention span or appetite for sacrifice, but an even more dangerous friend.  We have a nasty habit of creating situations where we edge friends into complete dependence on us in a crisis and then kick the crutch out from under them with no detectable sense of guilt for the obvious consequences.

In addition to whole tragic goat-rope with the Shah, this also stinks of JFK's lethal conniving against the Diem regime in Viet Nam.  That one turned out real good, dinnit?
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 02:06:56 PM »
Kennedy encouraged a coup against Ngo Diem in South Vietnam and we were sucked into the Vietnam quagmire for years afterwards. Barack Hussein Obama is screwing up globally, hate to see what the next two weeks will bring.

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 02:27:50 PM »
Sudden reversals of policy like this are why the US is a dangerous foe, if one with a limited attention span or appetite for sacrifice, but an even more dangerous friend.  We have a nasty habit of creating situations where we edge friends into complete dependence on us in a crisis and then kick the crutch out from under them with no detectable sense of guilt for the obvious consequences.

In addition to whole tragic goat-rope with the Shah, this also stinks of JFK's lethal conniving against the Diem regime in Viet Nam.  That one turned out real good, dinnit?

This unpredictability should be at least somewhat predictable, in my view, given the nature of the beast. It isn't difficult to figure out that missions near and dear to Republicans (Iraq and certainly Afghanistan (despite The One's professed support for a Surge there)) would be on the chopping block, with corresponding abandonment of the leadership.

Europe's love affair with The One is a little puzzling. I guess they figure they're safe from any kind of abandonment from Obama; indeed they expect Obama to come running back into their socialist fold.   :whatever:
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 02:41:12 PM »
This unpredictability should be at least somewhat predictable, in my view, given the nature of the beast.

The only thing that is predictable from an ally's point of view is that every two years they are subject to having the ground rules changed with no input from them, and even more so every four years, but they have to make plans and military/economic commitments for longer terms and far outside the window during which the outcome of the election becomes evident (if it even does beforehand at all).  About the only allies we haven't completely screwed over royally (yet) are those in Old Europe, the oil sheikdoms and Israel.
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 04:11:44 PM »
The first step in throwing Iraq under the bus.

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 04:26:31 PM »
The first step in throwing Iraq under the bus.

Karzai is Afghani
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 04:34:53 PM »
Karzai is Afghani
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So then we're throwing Peru under the bus??
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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 04:41:45 PM »
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So then we're throwing Peru under the bus??

No, no, no, that's Colombia.

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 05:06:58 PM »
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So then we're throwing Peru under the bus??

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 09:54:38 PM »
I wonder if Jimmy Carter will live another 4 yrs. Long enough to see his stock in trade rise from being the worst U.S. President in history to being the 2nd worst behind the Obambler.

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Re: Obama Abandoning Hamid Karzai
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 10:42:31 PM »
After reading this conversation along with all the news of the day, I sit here feeling a lot of things, but can't really put
them into words. This must be the feeling one has when their house catches on fire and all they can do is stand on the
curb and watch it burn to the ground. Very depressing.
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