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Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« on: January 29, 2009, 03:50:31 PM »
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Pryderi  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:31 PM

Poll question: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
   
If federal employees do, then they should too.

Poll result (28 votes)
Yes. Maybe then they'll legalize marijuana   (28 votes, 100%)   Vote
No. They're above the law.   (0 votes, 0%)   Vote

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I think anyone that receives their living from the taxpayer should be drug tested, especially welfare recipients.

Keep wishing for the herb to be legalized though. It has clearly made such a positive difference in so many lives to day that it can be considered harmless  :mental:

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FiveGoodMen  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:33 PM
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2. No one should.

Yeah , jeeez , I could like , you know , be sacked if I got caught suckin' down a few bongs at work. Major drag man.

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Blue_In_AK  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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4. I agree with you.   Updated at 12:08 AM
   
No one should be drug tested unless they're obviously impaired on the job.
 
Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:45 PM
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8. After watching some of these folks on Capitol Hill, I'm beginning to wonder.

Mheh. Most of them are democrats so the result shouldn't surprise you one little bit.

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malletgirl02  (359 posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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5. Drug testing
   
I don't like drug testing, but if federal employees have to be tested then so should elected officals. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.


..as should welfare recipients for the same reason.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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6. They should be tested for any signs of intelligence
   
and if none are detectable, they can be ruled unfit. Of course there would have to be a lot of special elections, but it would be worth it.

Be careful what you wish for DUmmie..

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onethatcares  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-29-09 03:51 PM
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9. all men are equal under the law, (hahahaha) supposedly
   
so, they allow corporation to drug test as a prerequisit to employment, they should be tested to level the playing field. Or, toss out all drug testing unless you injure yourself, or an other during your work.

This attitude is kinda the same as bombing the cave after the camel humper has left it.

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katsy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-29-09 04:03 PM
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11. How about just attaching lie detecters to them 24/7? nt

Yeah, and DC would sound like a bee hive. BZZT. BZZT  BZZT.

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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 03:52:36 PM »
But drug-testing's racist.

Think of the mayor of Washington, D.C.

He takes a drug test and flunks.

Then what?
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 03:58:36 PM »
But drug-testing's racist.

Think of the mayor of Washington, D.C.

He takes a drug test and flunks.

Then what?

Well, that one's easy, Frank! He serves time, then gets reelected!  :lmao: :rotf:

As mayor of the freakin' nation's capitol!

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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 04:07:26 PM »
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FiveGoodMen  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:33 PM
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2. No one should.

Tell me that when I am standing over you as your surgeon holding a scalpel after a two week meth bender.
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 04:11:21 PM »
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Blue_In_AK  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Thu Jan-29-09 03:35 PM
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4. I agree with you.   Updated at 12:08 AM
   
No one should be drug tested unless they're obviously impaired on the job.

Test the hippie AFTER he drives a jackhammer through his coworker's skull because he is having a bad acid trip?

W-T-F?!?!  :mental:
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 04:25:05 PM »
Well, that one's easy, Frank! He serves time, then gets reelected!  :lmao: :rotf:

As mayor of the freakin' nation's capitol!

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....and forgets to file his tax returns (2007).....same as some other democrats.
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 06:45:12 PM »
If only we would have a different Senate, HOR, and President.  The donks would be permanently out of power.
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 06:47:01 PM »
That would lead to a big GOP majority

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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 06:48:08 PM »
The GOP once had the majority.

They didn't know what to do with it.
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 06:53:45 PM »
My libertarian bend hates the whole idea of drug testing and if people want to check out via overdose, who am I to stop the exercise of their free choice.

But another part of me doesn't want people on drugs to vote or be flying my airplane.  Unless the pilot has glaucoma and the Americans with Disabilities Act makes them unfireable.  But I digress.

People who do drugs are trying to fill some emptiness in their lives and the way we are dealing with druggies doesn't seem to stem the tide.  I would take it under advisement.  I mean, if drugs are giving some pleasure to people they aren't just going to give it up without some greater feeling of pleasure.

DUmmies, for instance, are addicted to being miserable and what recovery program could ween them?
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 06:56:33 PM »
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DUmmies, for instance, are addicted to being miserable and what recovery program could ween them?

A bullet?
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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 06:57:58 PM »
The GOP... I never did like them much.. the Stupid Party is the better term

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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 07:00:11 PM »
A bullet?

Exactly, or an overdose.  A lot of them believe in reincarnation so why not take the chance of being reborn in the New Atlantis the Big L'oef is going to build for them?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 07:01:57 PM »
The GOP... I never did like them much.. the Stupid Party is the better term

Why did you never like them?
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 07:02:34 PM »
Exactly, or an overdose.  A lot of them believe in reincarnation so why not take the chance of being reborn in the New Atlantis the Big L'oef is going to build for them?

A bullet is cheaper.

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Re: Should Elected Officials Be Drug Tested?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 07:07:29 PM »
not much.

They always seemed happier in the minority. They didn't do much when they had a majority. I want them to be conservative, but they want to get along.

I now call myself a freedomist

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 07:12:09 PM »
What exactly is a freedomist?
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 07:13:31 PM »
They always seemed happier in the minority. They didn't do much when they had a majority. I want them to be conservative, but they want to get along.

What's forgotten is all the awesome stuff Republicans in Congress got done 1995-1997.

Just a lot of really good stuff.

They got it done because of this sense of urgency; having been out of power for decades, they thought this was a two-year phenomenom, and so they'd better hurry up and get it all done, before declining back into the minority.

When they still retained control of Congress after the elections of 1996, they were shocked, but by the elections of 1998 and 2000 and on, they were getting too used to being in power, and thus grew complacent and compromising.

They should've kept their sense of urgency--that there wasn't much time, before they'd be voted out again--and I hope to God they regain, and keep, that sense of urgency in all elections to come.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 07:15:25 PM »
Its basically a libertarian on economics but recognizes we need borders, language, culture and a military.

Most conservatives these days would have government be much much bigger than I would want.

Heck, I'd privatize roads, libraries, schools and fire departments...

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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2009, 07:15:34 PM »
What's forgotten is all the awesome stuff Republicans in Congress got done 1995-1997.

Just a lot of really good stuff.

They got it done because of this sense of urgency; having been out of power for decades, they thought this was a two-year phenomenom, and so they'd better hurry up and get it all done, before declining back into the minority.

When they still retained control of Congress after the elections of 1996, they were shocked, but by the elections of 1998 and 2000 and on, they were getting too used to being in power, and thus grew complacent and compromising.

They should've kept their sense of urgency--that there wasn't much time, before they'd be voted out again--and I hope to God they regain, and keep, that sense of urgency in all elections to come.

Excellent analysis Frank.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2009, 07:18:31 PM »
What's forgotten is all the awesome stuff Republicans in Congress got done 1995-1997.

Just a lot of really good stuff.


I swear I thought you were kidding. The budget didn't shrink, government did not dismantle any depoartments or agencies that I am aware of.

Aside from stopping HillaryCare I am not sure I would agree they did anything all that important or lasting unless you think they stopped Clinton from passing multi-trillion payback pork bills, like they are doing now??

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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2009, 07:20:31 PM »
Aside from stopping HillaryCare I am not sure I would agree they did anything all that important or lasting unless you think they stopped Clinton from passing multi-trillion payback pork bills, like they are doing now??

That works.

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2009, 07:23:37 PM »
I hear they are already discussing the next bailout bill to be more than a trillion.. after that comes a second porkulus, I mean stimulus package... watch and see.

They are destroying this country by spending money that does not really exist

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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2009, 07:32:03 PM »
I hear they are already discussing the next bailout bill to be more than a trillion.. after that comes a second porkulus, I mean stimulus package... watch and see.

They are destroying this country by spending money that does not really exist

Ummm...  That has been going on since the 60's.

Under both parties.

But I guess Ron Paul would have ended all that.
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2009, 07:38:39 PM »
The problem is that these are massive amounts of money. They will spend more on bailouts and pork this year than on the actual federal budget. ALL debt, for our kids to deal with