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OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« on: January 29, 2009, 03:56:00 AM »
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spin  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-28-09 02:01 PM
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OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout...What would YOU do?

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liberal renegade  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-28-09 02:07 PM
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1. Tax the living shit out of the rich!
   
People like Rush Limbaugh would kill themselves after I got done with them...

Soros, Kennedy and Gore won't much like that plan either.

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Life Long Dem  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Wed Jan-28-09 02:07 PM
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2. I'm going to lend someone 5 bucks. And guess what?
   
I will have done more for my country than the do nothing obstructive action of the Republicans.

Your dime your call. Hands off my wallet.

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blondeatlast  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Wed Jan-28-09 02:13 PM
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6. $100 for every household under $200K to SPEND would go a very, very
   
long way and be partially repaid in tax revenue.

I like your idea--and you are damn right.

Only $100, that isn't even enough to buy a weeks worth of Free Ponyâ„¢ food.

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liberalmuse  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-28-09 02:10 PM
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4. Raise taxes on the wealthy...
   
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 02:14 PM by liberalmuse
Because cutting taxes on the rich and wealthy corporations has never worked in my lifetime. And I'd do what President Obama is looking to do - focus on infrastructure which will actually create jobs in all sectors of the economy. I'd also build a high speed rail system connecting one end of the country to the other. We really do need more connectivity, and if we can do it with a incredible high speed, energy efficient train that links cities and states, all the better. I'd also give tax breaks to those businesses and families who 'green up' their buildings and transport. I'd stress recycling and building with recycled materials (see: Earthships) rather than dumping everything in landfills.

Great idea, lets build a multi billion dollar fantasy train and make other people pay for it.

Funny how they never suggest their own level of taxation be raised , it's gotta be someone else who foots the bill.

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leftstreet  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-28-09 02:16 PM
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10. Make the Predator Class give it all back to us
   
They broke it, they buy it.

You bought it , now pay for it.

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12. oooh, here is mah plan:
   
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 02:24 PM by northernlights
1. nationalize the big banks as needed to make low interest loans to businesses
2. nationalize freddie and fannie, workout mortgages to stem the foreclosures and put floor under housing market
3. spend:

o pump money into infrastructure overhaul/upgrade, from mass transit to bridge repair to refurbish/insulate/energy efficiency for older buildings
o pump money into education, especially for key industries (e.g. solar, wind, health care), in the form of increasing size of existing programs (more teachers hired/fewer fired) and student grants (not loans, grants) for displaced workers
o repeal bush tax cuts for the uber-wealthy
o cut taxes on everyone earning under $100K
o penalize companies that ship jobs overseas -- they can pay for retraining of every murikan they dump
o reward companies that hire murikans
o crack down hard on H1B hiring fraud (I can name 2 people, a brit and an australian, in murikan jobs and subsidized, rent-controlled Boston Backbay brownstone to boot!)
o tax rebates for money spent installing solar or wind (yes, only rich can afford right now, but when demand goes up prices will come down plus it will mean new jobs for manufacturing and installation)
o pump money into things like Vista and the Peace Corp, to improve things here and help out abroad
o reinstall 100,000 police in the street program of Clinton. The first people to suffer when * took down that program were single women. We depended on the police for protection -- I for one have been a nonstop crime wave at every level since 2001. It creates 100,000 decent jobs immediately *and* makes it safer to do business
o immediately $500 cash to everyone making under $100K, on unemployment, on welfare, or living on their own dime while trying to regain some footing
o end SS payments to people who have over $50K income

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Donnachaidh  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-28-09 02:26 PM
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17. round up all the hedge fund managers and send them to GITMO, after we confiscated
   
ALL their holdings, foreign and domestic.

NATIONALIZE -ALL- the companies that are -too big to fail-, and do audit on ALL the CEO's, upper management AND shareholders.

Review ALL visas that allow foreigners to work in this country, and if there is even a whiff of wrongdoing in the acquistion of that visa, deport them AND fine the company that hired them to the teeth.

Kick the tax rates up to 80% for anyone making over 200K per month, and keep it there until we have 100% Universal Health care, Childcare for ALL workers, and union representation, plus a LIVING wage for ALL people who want to work.

Give EVERY family that has been thrown out of work in the last year 100K to start businesses, and build homes.

Dismantle and BAN BLACKWATER.

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21. 1. Nationalize the banks. 2. Make tender offers for specific series of mortgage backes securities
   
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 02:45 PM by HamdenRice
3. Acquire all outstanding mbs of a particular series,

4. Contact all homeowners for that series and assess their ability to pay and either take them out and into homeowner programs, renegotiate their terms or assess them likely to pay. This work would be subcontracted to a fully nationalized Fannie and Freddie, which have exactly the expertise to do it, and fees would be remitted as dividends to the federal government owner.

5. Reissue triple AAA rated mbs with full federal guarantee with much smaller pools and more information about homeowners, and more leeway for individual defaults.

6. Repeat, fixing mbs at the bottom (homeowners) and at the top (rating and yield), returning the banking system to normal.

7. Fully nationalize AIG and turn it into a Medicare/Medicaid type government owned universal health insurance parastatal.

8. Bring back a vigorous National Labor Relations Board system whose explicit mission is to encourage unionization and collective bargaining.

9. End the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

10. Revisit Clinton's "military conversion" plans of the 1992 campaign -- ie long term plans for converting most military contractors into infrastructure and public transit manufacturers, with a medium term goal of reducing military expenditures from $1 trillion per year to no more than $100 billion per year.

11. Negotiate a long term economic pact with Mexico that involves allowing it to return to a system of inalienable corn lands to reduce the push pressures of immigration and starvation wages in Mexico, and that involves unionization and labor condition and environmental equalization across the border.

12. Negotiate a long term economic security pact with China in which they use some of their $2 trillion reserves to stimulate demand at home in part for US manufactured goods and direct investment in the US, in exchange for assurances about their access to the US market and the safety of their dollar denominated investments.

13. Stop NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and negotiate a security and economic cooperation pact with Russia, covering energy supplies, assurances of no first strikes, no missile shields, etc., further allowing military expenditures to fall world wide.

14. Free beer for all US male citizens during football nights, provided by food stamp-like vouchers.

How about we come to a deal and ship all the commies like you three over to Cuba so you can experience what this type of mentality gets you.

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43. give every taxpayer $50,000
   
some people will put it in the BANK
some people will put it in the STOCK MARKET
some people will buy an AUTO
some people will avoid FORECLOSURE and pay their MORTGAGE
some people will visit their local RETAILER

everybody ends up with a piece of the pie and the Little Guy can breathe easy for a quick minute.

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 04:27:52 AM »
They could always drop the corporate tax to at least the international average.

Some infrastructure investment is actually a good idea.  The labor for such improvements could be had at llower prices than in recent years.

Free up the captive work force of the United States.  Currently our laws concerning our citizens paying taxes overseas makes no sense.  While we encourage foreigners to work in the US, this is screwed up.

Encourage banks to set up and expand programs for small business loans.

In other words, generally unleash the creative and productive capacity of the American people.  We still got a road to go but this would work.

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 04:34:39 AM »
Confiscate money from those that have more then you and make companies pay union scale for every job.

Welcome to the world of $200.00 garbage bags,and chicken in the stores for $25.00/lb.

DUmbasses.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 05:22:18 AM »
That's a whole lot of concentrated stupid.  How are they smart enough to breed?
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 06:55:03 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on January 29, 2009, 05:22:18 AM
That's a whole lot of concentrated stupid.  How are they smart enough to breed?

What do you get when you add water? Kool-aid?
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 07:07:17 AM »
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6. $100 for every household under $200K to SPEND would go a very, very

$100 would get me two weeks worht of groceries at the commissary.

Your idea sucks DUmmie.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 07:32:06 AM »
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o end SS payments to people who have over $50K income

WTF? So you have no problem with theft? These people paid INTO the damn system, you jackass.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 07:33:35 AM »
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17. round up all the hedge fund managers and send them to GITMO, after we confiscated

Ahh, Guantanamo for terrorists-------------Torture

Guantanamo for hedge fund managers------Perfectly fine


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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 08:15:10 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on January 29, 2009, 05:22:18 AM
That's a whole lot of concentrated stupid.  How are they smart enough to breed?

They don't actually ...... someone has to pick them up and drop their lazy on their sex partner at a rate of 60 times a minute.......FIRE THE BASTARD.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 08:52:25 AM »
This whole "give everyone $100 or even $500" shows how juvenile these idiots really are.  To my 8 yr old, $100 makes one rich.  To us adults, we realize it may buy a few groceries for the family, but sure doesn't make us stop worrying about the budget.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 08:58:43 AM »
Long story short:

FREEBIES FOR ALL

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 09:01:26 AM »
Their suggestions aren't that much more stupid than what B. Hussein has proposed, which is why he's dumb as a bag of hammers, too.

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 09:11:02 AM »
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 09:42:53 AM »
All of their suggestions are just regurgitating what has been spoon-fed to them, of course.  Among all the lunacy, let me comment on this one:

"focus on infrastructure which will actually create jobs in all sectors of the economy. "

First, did you ever notice how saying "sector" makes them feel intellectual?  Do they know what that means?  Also, when they say "which will actually" makes them feel like they are speaking absolute truth, as in "gravity makes things fall down." 

As for infrastructure, I was discussing this with someone at Moonbattery.  There is no such thing as a shovel-ready project.  Let's say you think you have a shovel-ready project.  "Here I am, Messiah!  Ready with my shovel!"  Suddenly an enviromoonbat roars up and says, "We suspect the Burrowing Titmouse inhabits these grounds.  See you in court for the next 10 years!"  And goes roaring off. 

Regulations put in place by the same people who want to "focus on infrastructure" will prevent that very work from getting done.  Tangled in red tape, it falls into quagmire.  Witness the Freedom Tower, and The Big Dig.  Law of unintended consequences rears its ugly head again. 
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 09:58:13 AM »
Quote from: Karin on January 29, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
Regulations put in place by the same people who want to "focus on infrastructure" will prevent that very work from getting done.  Tangled in red tape, it falls into quagmire.  Witness the Freedom Tower, and The Big Dig.  Law of unintended consequences rears its ugly head again. 

God forebid you find an arrowhead or a piece of broken pottery on a job....you'll be shut down for days, perhaps weeks and they don't give a rip about your payments, interst rates, hire help......been there, done that ....GRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Like what's his name ? ...Shultz?....."I saw nuth-thing."
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 10:58:15 AM »
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o immediately $500 cash to everyone making under $100K, on unemployment, on welfare, or living on their own dime while trying to regain some footing

o end SS payments to people who have over $50K income

 :mental:

Give $500 cash to someone making under $100k ..... then end the SS payments of someone making OVER $50k.

The stupid never stops.

And to the DUmbass who wants to give $100.00 to someone who makes $199,999.99/year.  Thanks for the lunch.

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 11:11:05 AM »
$100?? That's barely one trip to Wally World for me....I've spent more than $100 in a month on underwear...
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 11:20:28 AM »
Quote from: Karin on January 29, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
All of their suggestions are just regurgitating what has been spoon-fed to them, of course.  Among all the lunacy, let me comment on this one:

"focus on infrastructure which will actually create jobs in all sectors of the economy. "

First, did you ever notice how saying "sector" makes them feel intellectual?  Do they know what that means?  Also, when they say "which will actually" makes them feel like they are speaking absolute truth, as in "gravity makes things fall down." 

As for infrastructure, I was discussing this with someone at Moonbattery.  There is no such thing as a shovel-ready project.  Let's say you think you have a shovel-ready project.  "Here I am, Messiah!  Ready with my shovel!"  Suddenly an enviromoonbat roars up and says, "We suspect the Burrowing Titmouse inhabits these grounds.  See you in court for the next 10 years!"  And goes roaring off. 

Regulations put in place by the same people who want to "focus on infrastructure" will prevent that very work from getting done.  Tangled in red tape, it falls into quagmire.  Witness the Freedom Tower, and The Big Dig.  Law of unintended consequences rears its ugly head again. 

That is one concept they will never grasp.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 01:21:54 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on January 29, 2009, 05:22:18 AM
That's a whole lot of concentrated stupid.

Very nice description. Concentrated stupid. Nice.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2009, 03:10:14 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on January 29, 2009, 05:22:18 AM
That's a whole lot of concentrated stupid.  How are they smart enough to breed?

Apparently breeding is one of the least cerebral-intensive activities known to mankind.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2009, 04:27:19 PM »
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Apparently breeding is one of the least cerebral-intensive activities known to mankind.

Seeing that the "little head" does most of the thinking in it, you're spot on.  H5.
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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2009, 04:49:57 PM »
Quote from: Redstatecka on January 29, 2009, 01:21:54 PM
Very nice description. Concentrated stupid. Nice.

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2009, 06:55:08 PM »
I swear these people do not understand ANYTHING at all. The only one who comes close to a 'good idea' is 2hip... just divide it all up and send checks to the people.

wait a sec, thats what Bush did!!!!! OMG!!!!!

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Re: OK, you are in charge of the economic bailout
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2009, 07:30:32 PM »
Lordy, if it weren't for class envy they'd have no class at all.

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