Hamas: Obama doesn't represent change

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Hamas said Thursday that US President Barack Obama's position toward the Palestinians does not represent change and will lead to the same mistakes as his predecessor, shortly after the new leader made his first public comments on the Gaza crisis since his inauguration.


Obama said the cease-fire that recently ended the three week Israeli offensive in Gaza can only hold if Hamas stops firing rockets, Israel completes its withdrawal from Gaza and the US and its allies support an anti-smuggling system that prevents the Palestinian group from rearming.

Beirut-based Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan dismissed the new president's comments, saying "Obama is still on the same path as previous leaders and also will make the same mistakes as Bush that ignited the region instead of bringing stability."

"Obama is insisting on not bringing any change even though his campaign slogan promised to bring change," Hamdan told Al-Jazeera television in an interview. "I don't think this is a very successful step toward dealing with the region, and this will mean the next 4 years will be a failure for the region." ...

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No pony for Hamas either.

[BEG]

Maybe Supercrash will argue with Hamas about their fake outrage. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Blind squirrel, nut, you know the drill...

[Ptarmigan]

Well, Hamas got something right, even though I detest them.

[Redstatecka]

Now Hamas has gone and done it: They've disagreed with, challenged and generally put down His Unification-ness.

They must be crazy.

Next thing we know, Obama will tell Americans to pay no attention to Hamas and maybe even start listening more to the Israelis?

Then they'll really be in trouble. Those dumb terrorists.

[Wretched Excess]

hey, he will talk with them, and they will immediately see the light.

naivete run amok.  first of all, hamas has no central authority to have discussions with.  it's like negotiating with a disturbed ant hill.  and second of all, the whole point of a negotiation is some sort of compromise.  how do you compromise with a group who's central demand (or at least one of them) is the destruction of your country, your culture (which may not be an entirely bad idea, but that's another conversation), and your population?

once again, this "talking to your enemies" notion was the result of a misstatement he made during a primary debate, but his sheer narcissism prevented him from simply saying the next day that he had made a mistake.  it then became doctrine.  now that he has been elected president, it will be the foreign policy of the united states. 

[Redstatecka]

hey, he will talk with them, and they will immediately see the light.

naivete run amok.  first of all, hamas has no central authority to have discussions with.  it's like negotiating with a disturbed ant hill.  and second of all, the whole point of a negotiation is some sort of compromise.  how do you compromise with a group who's central demand (or at least one of them) is the destruction of your country, your culture (which may not be an entirely bad idea, but that's another conversation), and your population?

once again, this "talking to your enemies" notion was the result of a misstatement he made during a primary debate, but his sheer narcissism prevented him from simply saying the next day that he had made a mistake.  it then became doctrine.  now that he has been elected president, it will be the foreign policy of the united states. 

"Negotiating with an ant hill." That's rich, very rich.

You're also spot-on re: the Israelis negotiating with people who only want to destroy your country. I wouldn't. Would you? I'd drive the tanks and planes and artillery through them.

Good point re: Obama's narcissim preventing him from correcting his mistake. Never looked at it that way, but I think you're right.

That's pretty scary, too, that such a fragile, needy ego quirk could damn all of us.

Real leadership qualities POTUSBO has.

[Wretched Excess]

"Negotiating with an ant hill." That's rich, very rich.

You're also spot-on re: the Israelis negotiating with people who only want to destroy your country. I wouldn't. Would you? I'd drive the tanks and planes and artillery through them.

Good point re: Obama's narcissim preventing him from correcting his mistake. Never looked at it that way, but I think you're right.

That's pretty scary, too, that such a fragile, needy ego quirk could damn all of us.

Really leadership qualities POTUSBO has.

the israelis have shown remarkable restraint.  I would have pounded gaza flat a long time ago.

the combination of BHO's naivete and his nearly limitless ego is probably a dangerous combination.   strutting, pompous ignorance is not a desired quality in a chief executive.  he, and by extention we, will get nailed at least once before he learns his lesson.  I just hope (a) it isn't "a big one", and (b) he does actually learn his lesson.

[Redstatecka]

the israelis have shown remarkable restraint.  I would have pounded gaza flat a long time ago.

the combination of BHO's naivete and his nearly limitless ego is probably a dangerous combination.   strutting, pompous ignorance is not a desired quality in a chief executive.  he, and by extention we, will get nailed at least once before he learns his lesson.  I just hope (a) it isn't "a big one", and (b) he does actually learn his lesson.

Me, too, re: Gaza.

I'd say that combo you mention IS a dangerous combination.

And, while I hate to say and pray God prevents it, I think there's a fairly good probability that America will get nailed. Somehow, though, I have this feeling once would be a gift.

As for the "big one"? Wow. That takes the breath away to even think about. But with such rogue nuclear weapons everywhere and the terrorists' outlook -- not to mention that the Mideast could flame out if the Russians get involved in the Isreal-Gaza-Palestinian-whatever-we-want-t-call-it mess -- it seems inevitable.

But Obama learning his lesson? Somehow, I don't think that possibility's much of a probabililty.

Were I him, though, I might be very concerned that if something should occur while he's in office, he can't blame Bush. And that his handlers and those who installed him might be VERY exercised that he performed so badly. And that might not bode well for him in many ways.

But, then, maybe that's where global forces come into play, at a level neither Obama or we can grasp yet?

Whatever, this guy's outlook and megalomania truly concern me re: our well-being and sovereignty.

I hope that someone's got his ears and that they have the wisdom to impress on him how dangerous the times are now.

[Wretched Excess]

Me, too, re: Gaza.

I'd say that combo you mention IS a dangerous combination.

And, while I hate to say and pray God prevents it, I think there's a fairly good probability that America will get nailed. Somehow, though, I have this feeling once would be a gift.

As for the "big one." Wow. That takes the breath away to think, but with such rogue nuclear weapons everywhere and the terrorists' outlook -- not to mention that the Mideast could flame out if the Russians get involved in the Isreal-Gaza-Palestinian-whatever-we-want-t-call-it mess.

But Obama learning his lesson?

Somehow, I don't think that possibility's much of a probabililty.

Were I him, though, I might be very concerned that if something should occur while he's in office, he can't blame Bush. And that his handlers and those who installed him might be VERY exercised that he performed so badly.

But, then, maybe that's where global forces come into play, at a level neither Obama or we can grasp yet.

Whatever, this guy's outlook and megalomania truly concern me re: our well-being and sovereignty.

on the flip side, though, this guy has more class in his little finger than the last dem president had in his whole pudgy body.  at least we don't have to worry about BHO nailing 19 year olds in the oval office (michelle would kick his ass, first of all  ) .  the downside is that clinton's clinical obsession with sex probably interfered with his effectiveness in enacting the liberal agenda.  BHO doesn't have that flaw. 

(and it it must have taken GWB months to get the place clean.)

[Redstatecka]

on the flip side, though, this guy has more class in his little finger than the last dem president had in his whole pudgy body.  at least we don't have to worry about BHO nailing 19 year olds in the oval office (michelle would kick his ass, first of all  ) .  the downside is that clinton's clinical obsession with sex probably interfered with his effectiveness in enacting the liberal agenda.  BHO doesn't have that flaw. 

(and it it must have taken GWB months to get the place clean.)

Never viewed Obama as you have vis-a-vis Clinton. You've a point. But Obama, at least IMO, seems so unknown that I do not know what he's capable of doing. But the Angry First Lady would probably do just as you say if certain sinful liaisons occurred.

For sure, Clinton's inablity to keep his pants zipped up cost the Democrats.

But his narcissism pales, though by just a bit, next to Obama's.

And that, I think we're seeing, may be the Achilles heel Obama brings.

As you've said, that's very dangerous. We've no place for boy-king in love with his image who lacks the wisdom to know that he's now playing in the most major of leagues, not a game of pickup basketball in a nearby gym.

BTW: Have enjoyed chat. Fading fast. If you leave remark, I'll check in tomorrow. Best.