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Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« on: January 21, 2009, 06:16:06 AM »
And so it begins........................

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GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba -- Military judges on Wednesday will consider motions by the Obama administration to suspend the Guantanamo war crimes trials for 120 days during a review of the system for prosecuting suspected terrorists.

The motions, filed late Tuesday at the direction of President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, will be heard in the cases of five men charged in the Sept. 11 attacks and of Canadian Omar Khadr, who is accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade in Afghanistan in 2002.

Obama has said he will close the military detention center in Cuba, where the U.S. holds about 245 men, and he had been expected to halt the widely criticized war-crimes trials created by former President George W. Bush and Congress in 2006.

The motions to suspend the trials came the day of Obama's inauguration. Before Obama was sworn in, a military judge adjourned the war crimes court until Wednesday, noting the future of the commissions was in doubt.

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There are war crimes charges pending against 21 men being held at Guantanamo, including the five charged with murder and other crimes in the Sept. 11 case. Judges would be required to suspend the other cases as well, though hearings may not be necessary.

Eric Holder, the president's nominee for attorney general, has said the so-called military commissions lack sufficient legal protections for defendants and that they could be tried in the United States.

A human rights group at Guantanamo to observe this week's session of the war crimes court welcomed what appeared to be the looming end of the special tribunals.

"It's a great first step but it is only a first step," said Gabor Rona, international director of Human Rights First. "The suspension of military commissions so soon after President Obama took office is an indication of the sense of urgency he feels about reversing the destructive course that the previous administration was taking in fighting terrorism."

Jamil Dakwar, director of the human rights program at the American Civil Liberties Union, said it was a positive step but "the president's order leaves open the option of this discredited system remaining in existence."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/21/seeks-suspend-guantanamo-war-crimes-trials/100days/

I guess this is how it's gonna be :thatsright:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 06:36:04 AM »
Anything the ACLU applauds has to be bad for the country.  :hammer:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 06:38:48 AM »
Quote from: lars1701c on January 21, 2009, 06:36:04 AM
Anything the ACLU applauds has to be bad for the country.  :hammer:

You be the judge

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 06:41:46 AM »
A payoff to the trial lawyers that supported him.
Might as well put a few hundred (or thousand?) of his buddies on the permanent federal payroll as defense attorneys.
They will keep "trials" churning through the court system for years. :censored:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 06:44:25 AM »
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 07:01:42 AM »
Taking bets on the following outcomes:

A) After the 120 day review the Obama administration makes token changes to the proceedings but says they are pretty air-tight and the trials will continue as the final fate of Gitmo is decided.

B) The trials are permanently suspended drawing outrage from animals-posing-as-humans rights groups bleat and bray because the detainees are being held for years without trial pending their relocation out of Gitmo.

C) The trials are suspended and the animals-posing-as-humans are shipped to the US where physical security is a nightmare and the trials are a circus and none of the evidence against them is admissable or open to discovery. Bush is blamed because he botched the war leaving Obama is a bad position.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 07:25:01 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 21, 2009, 07:01:42 AM
Bush is blamed because he botched the war leaving Obama is a bad position.

That parts for certain.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 08:06:42 AM »
Quote from: Crazy Horse on January 21, 2009, 06:16:06 AM
And so it begins........................



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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 08:09:28 AM »
I heard this morning that one of the first things he did this morning is have a teleconference with the top brass to tell them to start planning for withdrawal. This before he sat through ANY classified meetings pertaining to the security of this nation and the true threats we face, many of them WE don't even know about.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 08:35:26 AM »
Well, the Exalted One does have to suck up to the moonbats to some level, largely because he expended a fair amount of political capital on his selection of a huge assortment of Clintonistas and other more "moderate" libs.

Nope, it's full speed ahead for His Holiness. He won't stop till he hits a brick wall.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 08:43:10 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on January 21, 2009, 08:35:26 AM
Well, the Exalted One does have to suck up to the moonbats to some level, largely because he expended a fair amount of political capital on his selection of a huge assortment of Clintonistas and other more "moderate" libs.

Nope, it's full speed ahead for His Holiness. He won't stop till he hits a brick wall.

Or the terrorists help a brick wall hit him.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 09:51:59 AM »
Oh great.... where are they gonna put them? In Rikers? Joliet? Hell, the ACLU has their way, they'd give the likes of Khalid Sheik Mohammed a government job.  :censored:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 09:56:18 AM »
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The suspension of military commissions so soon after President Obama took office is an indication of the sense of urgency he feels about reversing the destructive course that the previous administration was taking in fighting terrorism





****ING IDIOTS   :hammer:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 09:59:12 AM »
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the sense of urgency he feels about reversing the destructive course that the previous administration was taking in fighting terrorism

He thinks it's a destructive course, because he thinks we shouldn't be fighting terrorism...his buddies are getting their a&%^$ kicked.


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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 09:59:34 AM »
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The suspension of military commissions so soon after President Obama took office is an indication of the sense of urgency he feels about reversing the destructive course that the previous administration was taking in fighting terrorism



****ING IDIOTS   :hammer:

Well, we couldn't have the destruction of the terrorists, now could we?  That just isn't bending over and grabbing the ankles enough so that the rest of the world could **** us.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 10:06:33 AM »
I'll do my part....I'll take one in.....if he falls off the truck on the way here....well....
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 11:08:13 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on January 21, 2009, 09:59:34 AM


******* IDIOTS   :hammer:


Well, we couldn't have the destruction of the terrorists, now could we?  That just isn't bending over and grabbing the ankles enough so that the rest of the world could **** us.

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 12:50:23 PM »
No need to take prisoners now!

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 01:00:05 PM »
I wonder how many new retirement applications went in this AM? i WONDER HOW MANY rE ENLISTMENT forms got put thru the shredder this AM.
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 04:07:53 PM »
THIS will show those terrorists!!...Mess with the USA and you will be........freed.


Silly question but....where exactly will these detainees go after Guantanamo is shut down? 
Chicago, I hope...?


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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2009, 04:21:56 PM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on January 21, 2009, 04:07:53 PM
THIS will show those terrorists!!...Mess with the USA and you will be........freed.


Silly question but....where exactly will these detainees go after Guantanamo is shut down? 
Chicago, I hope...?





Nope, Florida.   :tongue:
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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2009, 04:50:28 PM »
Ed Morrissey, formerly of Captain's Quarters, now at hotair.com reminds:

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Recall that the military tribunal process has twice passed Congress as the preferred manner of dealing with these terrorists.  Barack Obama opposed it as a Senator, but it received bipartisan support on both occasions.  In the second and current version, the process includes the right to appeal through the regular federal appellate courts.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/21/gitmo-trials-halted-by-obama-order/

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2009, 07:07:05 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on January 21, 2009, 04:21:56 PM

Nope, Florida.   :tongue:

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2009, 07:25:13 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 21, 2009, 04:50:28 PM
Ed Morrissey, formerly of Captain's Quarters, now at hotair.com reminds:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/21/gitmo-trials-halted-by-obama-order/

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Re: Obama Administration Moves to Halt Guantanamo Trials
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2009, 08:02:10 PM »
**** Obama................he's treading on turf that doesn't need to be tread. WTF is wrong with him??

Does he think that by releasing most of these people others will like us...............oh yeah, those that are as ****ed up as the president will believe they are  doing good. 

I'm so damn happy I don't live in a city that loves terrorist (big blue cities) Enjoy your mickey mikes......................minus the mickies
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