Author Topic: Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo  (Read 1343 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo
« on: January 15, 2009, 06:44:57 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3690721

Oh my.

One wonders why the primitives are ignoring that one story yesterday, about the Iranians burning posters featuring 0bama.

Quote
Psephos  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-14-09 11:55 PM
Original message
 
Chávez reopens oil bids to West as prices plunge

CARACAS: President Hugo Chávez, buffeted by falling oil prices that threaten to damage his efforts to establish a Socialist-inspired state, is quietly courting Western oil companies once again. Until recently, Chávez had pushed foreign oil companies here into a corner by nationalizing their oil fields, raiding their offices with tax authorities and imposing a series of royalties increases.

But faced with the plunge in prices and a decline in domestic production, senior officials here have begun soliciting bids from some of the largest Western oil companies in recent weeks — including Chevron, Royal Dutch/Shell and Total of France — promising them access to some of the world's largest petroleum reserves, according to energy executives and industry consultants here. Their willingness to even consider investing in Venezuela reflects the scarcity of projects open to foreign companies in other top oil nations, particularly in the Middle East.

But the shift also shows how the global financial crisis is hampering Chávez's ideological agenda and demanding his pragmatic side. At stake are no less than Venezuela's economic stability and the sustainability of his rule. With oil prices so low, the longstanding problems plaguing Petróleos de Venezuela, the national oil company that helps keep the country afloat, have become much harder to ignore.

Embracing the Western companies may be the only way to shore up Petróleos de Venezuela and the raft of social welfare programs, like health care and higher education for the poor, that have been made possible by oil proceeds and have helped bolster his popular support.

<snip>

"Chávez is celebrating the demise of capitalism as this international crisis unfolds," said Pedro Mario Burelli, a former board member of Petróleos de Venezuela. "But the irony is that capitalism actually fed his system in times of plenty," he said. "That is something Chávez will discover the hard way."

Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/15/america/15venez....

Quote
sfexpat2000  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-15-09 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
 
1. Burelli always seems to be on tap when someone needs a condescending one liner about Chavez. I just saw him on some PBS hit piece a few weeks ago.

Quote
Psephos  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-15-09 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #1
 
2. I agree, Burelli is the lazy reporters' go-to guy

Rest of the article is interesting, though. The oil-producers have now effectively switched positions with their customers.

Quote
cstanleytech (865 posts)      Thu Jan-15-09 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
 
3. I wonder if the oil companies will be stupid and let their greed lure them into going into business with Chavez.

One wonders if the primitives will be stupid and let their greed for low gasoline prices lure them into patronizing the petroleum companies.

Same thing.

Quote
dkf  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-15-09 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #3
 
4. I doubt it. They might as well let the Venezuelan economy collapse and get Chavez kicked out of office. Makes me wonder if the fall of oil prices isn't some sort of conspiracy to knock the hubris of Chavez and Putin etal.

Quote
readmoreoften (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-15-09 02:00 AM
Response to Original message
 
5. Well, yeah, DUH. Limited, local socialism would have to do business with global capital. 

The only way socialists can stop "doing business" with capitalists would be to--oh, I dunno--rise up internationally. It's kinda hard to pull off.

Quote
Peace Patriot  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-15-09 02:13 AM
Response to Original message
 
6. There's always a bright side to corpo/fascist robbery, looting, firing millions of people, throwing millions of people out of their homes, destroying the world economy and slaughtering a million people to get their oil. They can dis Chavez, and gloat over the poor of Venezuela, who won't have shoes to put on their children's feet so they can go to school, whose children will lack books and other learning resources, and will suffer malnutrition, whose elderly will lose pensions and medical care, and whose government blahblahblah.....dribbledribbledribble.....

Quote
ConcernedCanuk  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-15-09 03:35 AM
Response to Reply #6
 
7. "a lying propaganda piece that creates a false drama" - From the USSA's media? - can't be!!!

I thought the USSA was the beacon of freedom, fairness and hope.

That IS why they've got their military spread all over the globe, right?

They wanna make sure they are ready to help those in need.

Over Half the World's countries have military presence from the USSA - why are they not grateful?

If China and Russia were decent states, then they too would invade and occupy a few countries, set up bases and huge embassies to impress us.

AND

if India and Pakistan would do the same, then a whole lot of USAmericans could go home!

Let's take a load off them poor Murikkkans


I'm not sure what sort of drug the last primitive was on when posting that last comment, but it's obviously some sort of drug that makes one spittle in hysteria.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline FlaGator

  • Another Pilgrim
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5412
  • Reputation: +1032/-31
  • Democracy can survive anything except Democrats
Re: Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 06:55:43 AM »
Quote
dkf  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-15-09 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #3
 
4. I doubt it. They might as well let the Venezuelan economy collapse and get Chavez kicked out of office. Makes me wonder if the fall of oil prices isn't some sort of conspiracy to knock the hubris of Chavez and Putin etal.

It only took four posts before the inevitable conspiracy theory gets mentioned. Not a record but not bad either.
"My enemy's enemy is the enemy I kill last."
Klingon Proverb.

Offline Carl

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19837
  • Reputation: +1617/-100
Re: Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 07:35:29 AM »
Quote
ConcernedCanuk  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-15-09 03:35 AM
Response to Reply #6
 
7. "a lying propaganda piece that creates a false drama" - From the USSA's media? - can't be!!!

I thought the USSA was the beacon of freedom, fairness and hope.

That IS why they've got their military spread all over the globe, right?

They wanna make sure they are ready to help those in need.

Over Half the World's countries have military presence from the USSA - why are they not grateful?

If China and Russia were decent states, then they too would invade and occupy a few countries, set up bases and huge embassies to impress us.

AND

if India and Pakistan would do the same, then a whole lot of USAmericans could go home!

Let's take a load off them poor Murikkkans


Guess what DUmbfukCanuk?

If we were to threaten to remove our umbrella of security over Europe you would find yourself very alone in hating the USA.

One glance over their shoulders at a grinning Putin would have them on their knees begging us to stay.

The high water mark for blind stupidity gets raised every day on the island.

Offline lizard

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170
  • Reputation: +28/-1
Re: Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 07:42:40 AM »
 :rotf: When I saw the title of this thread, I thought...damn, the primitives are fighting about that worthless crap car known as the Yugo?!!?   :p


What do you call a 4 door Yugo.............................a WeGo.   :evillaugh:

Online jukin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16226
  • Reputation: +2110/-170
Re: Doug's ex-wife on tap for defending Yugo
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 10:22:30 AM »
I guess Chavez isn't the right guy to make socialism work.  Don't worry the low IQ liberals will keep looking for the magic person that can make socialism work....forever...no matter what.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.