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angry hammering primitive gives birth
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:33:22 AM »
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angrycarpenter  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-12-09 09:54 PM
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The birth of a DU'er and the end of an era. 

Being Unemployed I have much time to look back on the last eight years and reflect on how much my life has changed. How I started really caring about politics and why.

Eight years ago I was making top dollar as a trim carpenter. I was doing so good that I felt that I had enough money to start my own business. So I embarked on the tedious process of getting the required licenses and paying the fees to the various agencies and insurers.

I went along pretty good for about six months and then Florida's republican state representatives rushed back in an emergency session and passed a law that made my particular type of professional license illegal. They gave us all just five weeks to comply with the new rules. I still owed debts as well as taxes and had no money to hire accountants and lawyers to set me up as an LLC or to buy a ridiculously expensive workman's comp policy. So with my head hung low I had no choice but to go find a job. Debt, divorce, and alcoholic stupor soon followed.

George Bush came through a few weeks later running for re-election. He gave a speech praising the small businessman as the backbone of our economy, how the republican party was our champion. This was the birth of my great anger for the Bush family. Jeb had ruined thousands with the stroke of a pin just to satisfy a few big insurance companies and big corporate builders. A masterstroke against the American working man.

Until this tragic episode I paid little attention to politics. I was a low information liberal. after I slowed way down on my drinking I started using the internet to keep tabs on them. I had been a daily news watcher but I was shocked to learn how much went unreported or was just a baldfaced lie. For a long time I was a daily reader of the Truthout site. I am still a frequent visitor. Sometime in the spring of 2007 I found DU. I had been reading a story on Madfloridian's journal page and clicked the DU banner at the top. Within minutes I knew that I had found my web home.

I had found a place where the people were just as angry at the Bush mis-administration as I was. For months I just read and by August I got up the nerve to register and post. I can't say that I am a happier man but I am much smarter about the goings-on in the world.

Thank-you DU for showing me where to turn my anger. It is all too easy to blame the victims in the world for it's problems. While most of my co-workers were blaming Mexicans for our inability to ask for the wages we used to get, I knew to blame the wanton failure to enforce immigration law instead. Instead of blaming poor homeowners for the failure of the housing market I know to blame Wall street and the banking industry for their total lack of ethics.

I am out of work right now. Building jobs are almost nonexistent and yet I have a more positive outlook for the future than I have had in years. I don't expect President Obama to work miracles but for the first time in my life there is not a Bush in office somewhere, and if nothing else that is a good thing. Goodbye George, you've turned your name into a curse word in every language in the world and with any luck no member of your tribe will ever betray the public trust again.

It's a pretty good bonfire, but I'm kinda tired of copying-and-pasting at the moment.

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HillbillyBob (350 posts)      Tue Jan-13-09 05:31 AM
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22. I can relate, I lived in Nazibama, and then South Florida

To try to make this short I was Air traffic control in the Navy.

Ronnyraygun decreed every gay out of the services in 81, while at the same time he killed PATCO.

When I got back to Al after being eliminated from the Air Traffic dept, I could not get a job with FAA because of my 'moral turpitude" whatever that is.

My discharge was Administrative under Honorable conditions.

Which should not have precluded me from civilian service.

I then became and electricians helper, moved up rapidly to where I was running service trucks to industrial heavy electric jobs on my own running a small crew, since I was not licensed i could never get more than a dollar or two over minimum wage.
The contractors made it impossible to get a license because the bastards would not vouch that I had time in grade or that I was even experienced. The politics of keeping serfs down. pfui

Jump to So-Fla, same shit about license, even though I did get a sample of the test which I aced, but without the verification from bama, could not even take the real test.

I also had a sideline and I had apprenticed to Wingard Dennis doing museum quality furniture restorations, I started a small shop, which my biz partner decided was too hot and stinky, he quit, I spent so much time chasing bad checks, I had to close
I ended up eventually working jobs in restaurants etc, I always had a part time job anyway, but since I could not get a license without verification that I had been in the job for almost 10 years at the time, then got outted again.

I ended up homeless, and working part time only in restaurants.

I got sick then got fired from Flanagans Fort Laud for being poz in 92, homeless again for 2 years.

jump to 94 got pneumonia 2x in less than 5 months, then CMV, I finally got SSI, but still tended bar a couple nights a week when I could.

I met my future partner while tending bar, then again in 96 we met again.

We were discussing (late 97 early 98) the bush family I said that I thought jebbie was not legitimate and if w ran he would 'win' by cheat and we would be at war inside 2 years in Iran or Iraq.

Right after 911, my partner was outsourced twice in less than 6 months.

Then we sold anything of value left and fled so Fla for western NC, spent a miserable winter in a house with no heat, missing windows and a mold problem that nearly took me out.

He found a job in Greensboro making about 1/2 what he was in Fla and I can no longer work at all.

2 years ago this month we found an abandoned, but modern house on 9 acres cheap..so we now have a start up Eco farm..

We were lucky, I am not bragging at all, we did not exactly over come..we just hung in there.

We had to figure out what we could do and do it now, got credit cleaned up some, took a fixed rate loan, our payments are half what the rent was in town.

We finally have a little peace, it has been hard.

I want to try to start taking in refinishing/ restoration work again.

Cash only.

I don't know if I can manage it.

First we have to get a shelter up for me to work under, HIV meds makes me extremely sun sensitive.

In 2002 we did not know if we were going to see 2003 let alone 2009.

I am so glad shrub is nearly gone, but his criminal leavings will be with us for a long time.

In 82 I lived next to the Governors Mansion in Alabama, George Wallace gave me a warning, I did not know at the time it was.

He said over the fence on day that the Bush family is criminal and that they made the mob look like church deacons..

I guess the he was right. We were talking about poppi and ronny raygun at the time.

I have no idea why he told me that whether it was just observation from his point of view or a warning. Though later on some holocaust survivors had told me similar things and that if we did not get a hold of our government that the US was going down the same road as Pre WWII Germany.

Hey carpenter know anything about making furniture?

Folks may not be buying houses, but there is always a market for good handmade furniture..I would be doing that now if I had any tools left.

Anybody recall that Reagan kicked gays out of the military?

I don't.

I wonder what's up with that.
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 08:49:19 AM »
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........... and had no money to hire accountants and lawyers to set me up as an LLC...

You need a laywer to set you up as a LLC?  You don't need to be in business for yourself.

And what a tall tale.  He even lived next door to George Wallace and got to talk to him over the fence.  HillbillyBob could be the next TiT.

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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 08:55:10 AM »
DUmmies encounter laws, rules and regulations required by DUmmie politicians to protect the lowly DUmmie workers ......and they pitch a fit..... :rotf: Welcome to the mess your liberalism causes. ....and better men still succede despite all the road blocks placed in their way by DUmmies. :rotf:
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 09:12:20 AM »
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Eight years ago I was making top dollar as a trim carpenter. I was doing so good that I felt that I had enough money to start my own business. So I embarked on the tedious process of getting the required licenses and paying the fees to the various agencies and insurers.

I went along pretty good for about six months and then Florida's republican state representatives rushed back in an emergency session and passed a law that made my particular type of professional license illegal. They gave us all just five weeks to comply with the new rules. I still owed debts as well as taxes and had no money to hire accountants and lawyers to set me up as an LLC or to buy a ridiculously expensive workman's comp policy. So with my head hung low I had no choice but to go find a job. Debt, divorce, and alcoholic stupor soon followed.

George Bush came through a few weeks later running for re-election.That would have been in 2004 He gave a speech praising the small businessman as the backbone of our economy, how the republican party was our champion. This was the birth of my great anger for the Bush family. Jeb had ruined thousands with the stroke of a pin just to satisfy a few big insurance companies and big corporate builders. A masterstroke against the American working man.


They don`t even try to keep things accurate in their little tales. :whatever:
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 09:49:59 AM »
I'm in Iraq.  It wold take me two hours to get set up as a Nevada LLC, since I have an extraordinarily slow connection here.
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 06:03:45 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on January 13, 2009, 08:55:10 AM
DUmmies encounter laws, rules and regulations required by DUmmie politicians to protect the lowly DUmmie workers ......and they pitch a fit..... :rotf: Welcome to the mess your liberalism causes. ....and better men still succede despite all the road blocks placed in their way by DUmmies. :rotf:
Meanwhile, the other DUmpMonks undoubtedly still have a half-dozen threads going where they pat themselves on the back for all the "wonderful" regulations they've forced through to save the poor employee from his/her evil employer.   :lmao:
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 06:07:50 PM »
Taxes are great...unless a DUmpmonkey has to pay them.

Government regulations are great...unless a DUmpmonkey has to deal with them.

Free speech is great unless a DUmpmonkey does not agree with that speech.

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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 06:54:36 PM »
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I went along pretty good for about six months and then Florida's republican state representatives rushed back in an emergency session and passed a law that made my particular type of professional license illegal. They gave us all just five weeks to comply with the new rules. I still owed debts as well as taxes and had no money to hire accountants and lawyers to set me up as an LLC or to buy a ridiculously expensive workman's comp policy. So with my head hung low I had no choice but to go find a job. Debt, divorce, and alcoholic stupor soon followed.
Excuses, piled on top of lies, covered in half truths.

It's basically the DUmmie template.  :whatever:
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 07:12:10 PM »
So let me see if I understand the DUmbasses correctly;

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Then there is the reply;

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Does that about cover it?

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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 07:45:27 PM »
Quote from: Carl on January 13, 2009, 09:12:20 AM
They don`t even try to keep things accurate in their little tales. :whatever:

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Debt, divorce, and alcoholic stupor soon followed.

George Bush made him into a penniless wino and all you can do is criticize his inability to keep track of trivial things like the progression of time?

Why aren't you angry at Bush for turning him into an alkey and a crappy husband and a total loser who hangs out at DU for his victimhood sympathy fix?

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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 08:31:54 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 13, 2009, 08:49:19 AM
You need a laywer to set you up as a LLC?  You don't need to be in business for yourself.

And what a tall tale.  He even lived next door to George Wallace and got to talk to him over the fence.  HillbillyBob could be the next TiT.

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And that's exactly where I stopped reading, him saying he needed a lawyer to form a LLC.   :whatever:  Dumbass.
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 08:56:03 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on January 13, 2009, 08:55:10 AM
DUmmies encounter laws, rules and regulations required by DUmmie politicians to protect the lowly DUmmie workers ......and they pitch a fit..... :rotf: Welcome to the mess your liberalism causes. ....and better men still succede despite all the road blocks placed in their way by DUmmies. :rotf:
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And bitching about comp to boot!!!
Workmans compensation is DU liberalism 101....I am almost certain tjis guy has filed a time or two..... :lmao:
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 06:41:13 AM »
So basically the fudge packer got AIDs and now is on disability.
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 09:51:55 AM »
H5, Texacon!
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Re: angry hammering primitive gives birth
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 01:58:41 PM »
You know, these people just can't stop for a second and be thankful for anything. I can't help thinking that isn't part of their problem. My husband was laid off right before Christmas as his company is based in Korea and (as with many businesses right now) had to cut back. Shit happens. Now I could definitely sit and moan and bitch about how tight things are right now and what a tough time he's having finding another job. That would all be true...BUT, it's also true we have plenty of blessings to count. We were smart enough to take out insurance that would pay our house payment and personal loan. For the first time in many years my husband was home for Christmas instead of having to work. My son got to be home for almost 2 whole weeks and got to spend quality time with both his parents. Because we're both home we don't have a need for 2 cars right now and were able to let Jake take one of them back to base with him to use until he goes to Okinawa in about a month or so. I'm thrilled we're able to give him a little extra freedom and mobility. My honey-do list is getting done. I could go on, but you get the picture. Why can't they ever see the silver lining? There's just no telling what kind of blessings are around the corner but if you spend all your time in the wallowing in the clouds how can you ever see them. Idiots.

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