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WS was stolen
« on: January 06, 2009, 09:35:39 PM »
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Phillies reliever J.C. Romero was suspended for the first 50 games of next season on Tuesday after testing positive for a banned substance contained in a supplement developed by convicted BALCO chemist Patrick Arnold.

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Romero, who earned two wins in Philadelphia’s World Series victory over Tampa Bay last season, used 6-OXO, developed by Ergopharm, which is led by Arnold. The company’s Web site touts it as “the new gold standard for testosterone elevation.”


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-playersuspensions&prov=ap&type=lgns


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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 09:48:38 PM »
What's the WS?
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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 05:48:27 AM »
World Series

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 07:26:57 AM »
NAMBLA is a left-wing organization.

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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 07:29:02 AM »
What's the World Series?

Ah, you must be a foreigner then.    Never mind. 




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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 08:14:13 AM »
Ah, you must be a foreigner then.    Never mind. 




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Naah . . . he's a Braves' fan.  (Same thing.   :tongue: )
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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 08:20:55 AM »
Naah . . . he's a Braves' fan.  (Same thing.   :tongue: )

Years ago. I just can't bring myself to watch a baseball game anymore. Much like basketball. Too many damn games. Plus, it's boring as hell.
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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 10:50:33 AM »
Please.  What a pathetic witch hunt  ::)

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While Romero seems resigned to his fate, he also has protested vehemently, even hiring a public relations firm whose Web site boasts of its proficiency in "crisis management." In interviews granted to ESPN.com and the Inquirer earlier this week, the lefthander portrayed himself as an unwitting victim. To some, the facts of the case might support such a contention. Romero purchased a legal, over-the-counter supplement. The label of that supplement did not list any ingredients that were banned under the MLB drug policy. Although a Sept. 19 urine test revealed the banned steroid precursor androstenedione, one source familiar with the case said the amount of the substance found was well below any level that would enhance an athlete's performance. Romero stopped using the supplement immediately, and - according to ESPN.com - passed a subsequent drug test.

"Basically, I am being punished for not having a chemistry lab in my house to test everything I put in my body, because reading the ingredients on a label is no longer good enough," Romero said in a statement. "I am all for catching the guys that cheat and punishing them. But I feel like I'm the victim of a system where a player like me is punished because other players before me have blatantly broken the rules."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20090107_Phillies_reliever_Romero_says_he_was_victimized__MLB_says_he_was_warned_about_taking_supplements.html
 

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 10:54:43 AM »
MLB is salty over the reputation Clemens and Bonds rightfully earned for the sport so now they're burning guys at the stake for taking Horny Goat Weed.  Please, Mr. Selig.  Stick it up your arse.   :bs:
 

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 11:28:12 AM »
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Manfred said the players failed to use supplements that had been approved under a certification program the sport began in 2006, and that Phillies strength and conditioning coordinator Dong Lien had warned Romero not to use the supplement. Posters in each major league clubhouse give players a hot line to call to check on substances, and Manfred said Romero did not use the hot line.

From link above.


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In 2006, Romero tested positive for a precursor of testosterone, which he said was a fertility supplement his wife, Erin, and he were taking. The case was dropped.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3813666


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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 11:51:23 AM »
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Romero said the players' association sent a Nov. 21 letter to players that stated, "We have previously told you there is no reason to believe a supplement bought at a U.S. based retail store could cause you to test positive under our Drug Program. That is no longer true. We have recently learned of three substances which can be bought over the counter at stores in the United States that will cause you to test positive. These three supplements were purchased at a GNC and Vitamin Shoppe in the U.S."

In a statement, the MLBPA's Weiner said: "Some press stories have stated that the Association advised players that the particular supplement J.C. took was safe. Others have suggested that the Association knew, in advance of the positive tests, that this supplement contained a banned substance. Neither is accurate. The Association knew nothing about the particular supplements involved here prior to learning of these positive results.

We knew but we didn't know.  Okay.   ::)
 

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 11:53:33 AM »
Again, Phil says it best:

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From: Sheridan, Phil
To: Ford, Bob; Gonzalez, John
Subject: The Romero fiasco


I tend to be very skeptical about athletes' explanations when they get busted for using performance-enhancing drugs. I've written in the past that the elaborate lies are almost as bad as the actual cheating, because they muddy the waters even more and because any honest athlete will sound exactly like the liars when he or she tries to explain a mistake.

Mostly, though, I reiterate something I've believed for years. MLB cannot be credible on this issue under the same leadership that botched things so badly during the 1990s. If Bud Selig cared about baseball, he would step aside as commissioner and allow a new leader to implement the drug policy. As long as the people who looked like buffoons in front of Congress are in charge, there will be a lingering sense that baseball is overcompensating for previous sins by appearing to be tough on players who make mistakes.

Meanwhile, I'll bet you HGH is being pumped into plenty of major-leaguers' bodies as we type.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20090107_You_Talking_to_Me___MLB_still_lacking_credibility_on_steroids.html

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 11:54:50 AM »
From link above.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3813666


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So he took fertility treatment with his wife.  How does that improve his slider?
 

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 01:50:18 PM »
His hand was slapped in 2006 (so he should have been ultra careful) and his trainer told him not to take it.

Give the ring back.   The Rays were robbed. 









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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 04:50:52 PM »
As much as I would like to see what formerlurker suggests, I say let them keep the rings.

*2008 MLB World Champion:  Philadelphia Phillies*

That oughta cover it.

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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 04:54:33 PM »
MLB is salty over the reputation Clemens and Bonds rightfully earned for the sport so now they're burning guys at the stake for taking Horny Goat Weed.  Please, Mr. Selig.  Stick it up your arse.   :bs:

Amen brutha.

Selig is a supreme moron and he's killing baseball.


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Re: WS was stolen
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 05:21:45 PM »
As much as I would like to see what formerlurker suggests, I say let them keep the rings.

*2008 MLB World Champion:  Philadelphia Phillies*

That oughta cover it.




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