And They Have Concentration Camps Already Built and Waiting ........

[formerlurker]

I don't go to the DU, but Frank's thread about favorite forum made me take a peek at this juvenile misfit playground.   I got a nice long chuckle from this post in a thread about nonsense:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3663260&mesg_id=3663568












"Aerial shot of 500000 plastic coffins at one of these cites."



Oh the humanity!!   Thank gosh golly I am a law abiding neocon and am thus immune from the facist army bastards coming to take away my mtv!!! 

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #103
132. Interestingly...
 A guy was telling me, the other day, that his son worked on a large construction project at the Tobyhanna PA Army/GSA Depot, which has a shitload of rail links going into it and he said that what they built could be nothing but a concentration camp. A huge one......

 

[USA4ME]

TwoSparkles
 
148. You know what is really curious about all of this?

Bush only has 22 days left before he is history.

The neocons spent decades, trying to get into power. It was a struggle, but slowly they metastasized into
our government, and they've called the shots for the past eight years.

Obama won. Are they really going to give up power?

Will they really go quietly away, after finally getting into power? If Obama unravels their damage, most of them
will never live to see another neocon takeover. It will be a few decades before it could happen again.

It just makes you wonder... Will they leave? Will some "event" happen before Jan 20? Or, once Obama is in, will
they somehow control the shots, behind the scenes or otherwise?

I don't see these people saying, "Ok, we're done with our evil, murdering, torture and subversion of the Constitution.
We'll go away and try to get into power some other day." That makes less sense than anything else.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm...

 

Now I know why the cat hangs out downstairs.  If it could only get rid of the sparkling husband primitive at least one normal "being" could be in the house.

.

[asdf2231]

OMG Bring on the STUPID!!!!!

LynnTheDem (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
1. Wake up, America.
 Wake the **** up...fast.

 

crikkett  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. suggest a course of action. wake up and do what?
 thanks.

subsuelo (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
57. My first recommendation - turn off the major tv networks
 Start getting your news and information from

Democracy Now
Link TV
DU
AlterNet
Znet

thats just for starters.

But why oh why would Mr. Obama throw them in prison camps we wonders?! 

KakistocracyHater  (463 posts)     Mon Dec-29-08 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #20
153. govorners pass legislation banning military activities
 on American soil/in their state; do this at the Mayoral level if necessary. Invoke Posse Comitatus Act(sp?)

THAt will be sure to stop an armored division. "Umm... The Mayor says you have to leave now..."

rhett o rick  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #176
178. Of course, so they won't come for all of us at once. First they will come for the immigrants.
 And we will remain silent.
We are not immigrants.

Then they will come for the gays
and most will remain silent
For most are not gay

Then they will come for the "secular progressives" and liberals
again most will remain silent

Then the union members.

Then the teachers.

Then the intellectuals.

And finally the gulllibles stand alone.

But at least we won't have to listen to YOUR whiny ass any more...

truedelphi  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #3
76. The official CIA web site used to have a listing in which it
 Discussed how important it was to figure out a way to motivate people in the Armed Services to detain or kill their fellow American citizens.

This was circa early 2002. I think that by sending thousands of Americans to fight endlesly in Iraq, routinely kicking in the doors of the families there, and hauling the Iraqis off to prison where they were abused, also by Americans, that our military is currently equipped psychologically.

As long as we are labelled terrorists, of course. Or looters. Or whatever (Don't forget that the poice fired on people in NO - based on skin color. White people foraging in stores for bread and milk - they were people looking out for their families.

Black people doing the same were "looters" and there was a 'shoot to kill' order out.)

 

OwnedByFerrets  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
93. To be completely honest, many of them have no problem
 killing children.....is it a stretch to believe they would have a problem killing americans? I dont think that the same ones who would commit this horror would hesitate to kill us.


http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20040504_1.htm 

  **** you very much.

wolfgangmo (280 posts)      Tue Dec-30-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
195. YOu mean the new skinhead aryan and gangbanger troops?
 Those troops. I don't think they will have a problem blasting people.

Thanks Mr. Bush. I feel much safer now. 

TwoSparkles  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
148. You know what is really curious about all of this?
 Bush only has 22 days left before he is history.

The neocons spent decades, trying to get into power. It was a struggle, but slowly they metastasized into
our government, and they've called the shots for the past eight years.

Obama won. Are they really going to give up power?

Will they really go quietly away, after finally getting into power? If Obama unravels their damage, most of them
will never live to see another neocon takeover. It will be a few decades before it could happen again.

It just makes you wonder... Will they leave? Will some "event" happen before Jan 20? Or, once Obama is in, will
they somehow control the shots, behind the scenes or otherwise?

I don't see these people saying, "Ok, we're done with our evil, murdering, torture and subversion of the Constitution.
We'll go away and try to get into power some other day." That makes less sense than anything else.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm...

 



 

[formerlurker]

THAt will be sure to stop an armored division. "Umm... The Mayor says you have to leave now..."
 

 






 

[JohnnyReb]

"Posse Comitatus"... Dummies have dyslexia...they read that as "comatose *****".


....and they're all for it.

[asdf2231]

acmavm  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
46. Wow! Maybe when we're in the streets because we're all broke, 
 homeless and hungry we'll see what kind of Americans our military is really made up of. Will they attack American citizens? Will they kill for corporate Amurika?

 

 

awoke_in_2003  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #46
145. "Will they attack American citizens?"
 They are, right now, being conditioned, in Iraq, to see dead civilians. Will they attack? Some, no. Most, yes.

Stay Classy you scamps. 

Kashka-Kat (788 posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
54. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NATL GUARD????????????????
 Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 02:06 PM by Kashka-Kat
Dumb ass reporters always ignore history, leave out the most germane points - no mention that this used to be function of natl guard under command of state govt and that the policy using federalized troops on US soil at the command of the president is actually a new development.

Hmmm well maybe I just dreamed that! Guess it was always like that huh?

How convenient too that we now have the legal groundwork laid to equate civil disobedience with terrorism/ terrorist sympathizers/ enemy combatants and the structure is in place to "disappear" people via "extraordinary rendition."

 

fudge stripe cookays  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #54
140. They're all in Iraq or Afghanistan.
 That way they can justify using "private troops" to enforce the peace.

A friend of ours is in the TX National Guard. 2 tours in Iraq, and two in Afghanistan since that ****ing asshole took office. The only reason he didn't just walk is because he needed the bennies.

 

Winebrat  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 02:06 PM
Response to Original message
56. Strategic Shock? What double-speak B.S. is that? 
 Besides, the Commander-in-Chief, President Obama, will be too smart and too prepared to let this happen. Not like his dumb-ass, do-nothing predecessor.

This report smells like Republican bullshit.

Daemonaquila (133 posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
65. The military needs a raison d'etre.
 I may be a broken record on this point, but here we go again. When we get the troops (and contractors) back from Iraq and Afghanistan, we're looking at over 200,000 people, probably more, who don't have a military or civilian job to return to here at home. That's going to be another giant kick to the economic 'nads. The military is already worried that it'll have no sandbox to play in, and that there will be no reason to maintain the number of active duty troops or the level of military procurement that it's used to. The War College is looking for something to do, and that something could be right here on our own streets as far as they are concerned. We will probably have that "economic collapse" to some extent, whether before the troops come home or more likely when that load of unemployed folks (with injuries large and small and in many cases PTSD) hits our streets.

There's nothing more dangerous than a military with too much time on its hands... except a civilian government willing to give it lots of rein.

acmavm  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #69
117. But don't you see the hilarity, the irony? The CIC is a ****ing AWOL little 
 lying coward. A guy who ran when it came time for him to do his 'duty'. It wasn't like the stupid **** was even going to Nam like my ex and all our friends (a couple we didn't know we were seeing for the last time).

So this chickenshit piece of human garbage wants to rig it so that the military attacks US.

So you personally didn't serve but Bush is a Chickenhawk... Riiiiight.

L0oniX  (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
75. So do ya still support our troops?

robinlynne  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 03:07 PM
Response to Original message
77. well, they just sent 20,000 troops here to the US, did'nt they. This is the kind of
 thing we have been afraid of....

martymar64  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #77
134. 20000 troops probably couldn't subdue a large city like NY or LA
 much less an entire state or the entire USA. We are simply too large and varied geographically to be easily subdued. Guerillas hiding out in the Smokies or the Rockies or the Cascades or the Sierras would be exceedingly difficult to pacify, even with our modern technological army. Imagine the Pakistani Tribal mountain areas but by a factor of 100.

robinlynne  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #134
137. the point is that the military is not supposed to act here to subdue the population.
 20,000 easily becomes 100,000. It's like spying on some people or torturing some people. What guerillas are in the mountains in the US, by the way?

martymar64  (1000+ posts)      Mon Dec-29-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #137
138. No guerillas yet , that I know of . . . 
 But that could all change if the govt decided to get nasty with us. Plus, where would the 100K troops come from? That would entail having to pull troops out of Iraq and other places for combat-effective troops. To pacify the Lower 48, one would probably need 2-3 million troops (a guess), in other words out entire Armed Forces both here and abroad. I just don't see that happening.

Holy Shit the Stupid BURNSSSSSS!!!

ejbrush (80 posts)        Tue Dec-30-08 12:48 AM
Response to Original message
172. Just wait whiles't I adjust my tinfoil hat...
 OK, that's better. Honestly, I cannot foresee this scenario playing out in the real world. But, the last 8 years have amply illustrated that reality in this country is about as reliable as a second-hand Yugo. What should rational folk do when the shit hits the fan?

FIGHT.

Die in the process, maybe, probably. But definately fight. If one lesson should be learned from the previous century's orgy of genocide, mass murder and other crap it is once the facists are in charge, your days are numbered anyway.

Right now, today, you may just as well get together with a couple of good friends, a bottle of decent bourbon and concoct a plan. Learn first aid, for yourself and your kin. Learn what wild plants are edible around the neighborhood. Learn the neighborhood, and how to get around where the Eyes won't see you. Read up on all the ugly, nasty stuff that people have done to each other throughout history and figure out how the survivors survived. Take a firearms course, learn what guns can and can't do. Learn archery. Learn bowling. Get yourself gassed, tear-gas sucks and once the panic wears off it still sucks, and it's good to know you won't die from it, necessarily. Buy a good sleeping bag. Have a couple weeks worth of canned goods, non-perishables and water in the pantry. Learn to like rice and beans. Learn how to make wine or beer at home. Learn how to filter diesel fuel through a jacket liner. Learn to read the clouds. Learn to tell a good story. Learn to sleep on a hard floor. Learn how to chop wood with an axe and dig a damn big hole by hand. Get to know your neighbors. Learn. Learn. Learn.

Do this with a couple of like-minded people you know and trust. Keep it to yourselves, don't be a moron and broadcast it. If nothing happens, you've learned a bunch of interesting stuff, some of which may even be usefull, who does't like bowling? If, gods/goddesses forbid the shitheads do try and pull off the big one, you'll at least have a few people around you for support, people on the right side of history, the side of progress. Maybe you'll meet another little group of patriots, and you can hoof it out of Dodge. Maybe you can join up with 100 little groups and storm the Bastille.
Rant off, returning to normalcy. 

I would pay money to see the pack of Retards DU could field trying to fight a Girl Scout Troop let alone the U.S. Military.

[franksolich]

I dunno.

There's nothing more dangerous than a military with too much time on its hands... except a civilian government willing to give it lots of rein.

I think that it's dangerous for freedom and liberty and democracy and decency and goodness and national security, with primitives with too much time on their hands.

[Carl]

Speechless.

[TheSarge]

LynnTheDem (1000+ posts)        Mon Dec-29-08 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
1. Wake up, America.
 Wake the **** up...fast.

Holy sh*t it lives.

BYW...the folks who had the chat with you at Ft. Hood say howdy!  

In fact I see the General in D.C. all the time.

Obama won. Are they really going to give up power?

I wish I was there to see you choke on your own remorse on Inauguration Day when The Rookie takes over and NONE of what you're hoping for happens.


That's right I said you and the rest of the mental midget shallow gene pool swimmers WANT this crap to happen so you can feel vindicated and justified for terrorizing those around you for the last eight years with your paranoid delusional rants about concentration camps and "marshall law".


   Effin Morons!

[TheSarge]

The pathetic thing about those pictures is that there is a perfectly sane non CT explanation for every one of them.

Most of them look like border fences...security check points or fenced areas to store ammo when you're in the field.

And a couple of them do NOT look recent and do NOT look like they are in this country.

[dutch508]

This is one of my favorate CTs. The radical right used to be sure Carter and then Clinton were bulding huge camps for them, then the radical left took over the entire project, down to the pictures of the back of roadsigns bearing barcode for the Army to round up people!
Camp Atterbury, Indiana, where I was assigned before coming to Space Command!,...sorry, you have to say it like that, or they send you on an away team...


...er, where was I...

AH yes, Atterbury! Where we personally built camps to house up to 2000!!!


Look it up.

It's real.

 

[USA4ME]

Best I can tell, none of them have even mentioned that the letter is dated "March 24, 1997" when (tada!!) Clinton was in office.

I wish I was there to see you choke on your own remorse on Inauguration Day when The Rookie takes over and NONE of what you're hoping for happens.

It's gonna morph into something else, maybe something in the order of "Il Duce is having to fight off a secret gov't of neo-cons who are behind the scenes twarting every policy and move our lord and savior is trying to do in order to serve the people and not the corporations," or some such nonsense as that.

.

[TheSarge]

Best I can tell, none of them have even mentioned that the letter is dated "March 24, 1997" when (tada!!) Clinton was in office.

Meh...can't let something as trivial as facts get in the way of a good CT.

It's gonna morph into something else, maybe something in the order of "Il Duce is having to fight off a secret gov't of neo-cons who are behind the scenes twarting every policy and move our lord and savior is trying to do in order to serve the people and not the corporations," or some such nonsense as that.

.

But unless there is a complete takeover of the house and senate in two years by the Republicans...that argument is moot.

[USA4ME]

But unless there is a complete takeover of the house and senate in two years by the Republicans...that argument is moot.

To quote a friend of mine:  "Meh...can't let something as trivial as facts get in the way of a good CT."

.

[TheSarge]

To quote a friend of mine:  "Meh...can't let something as trivial as facts get in the way of a good CT."

.

Touche!

[JohnnyReb]

"Aerial shot of 500000 plastic coffins at one of these cites."...what are the plastic coffins for? I thought everyone agreed to go green and compost'em?

[crockspot]

Did any of the DUmmieses note the date on the memo, and ponder on who was the President at that time?

[BlueStateSaint]

"Aerial shot of 500000 plastic coffins at one of these cites."...what are the plastic coffins for? I thought everyone agreed to go green and compost'em?

I almost put some merlot onto the monitor while reading that.  H5!

[Duke Nukum]

I've always enjoyed concentrating and tend to take 5-15 minutes out of the day to just focus on something to the exclusion of all other thoughts just to hone my mental power but I've never liked camping too much.  Seems like something I could do better at home.

[Mr Mannn]

If we really did build concentration camps for liberals, I can tell you one thing.
I would take a pay cut to be a guard. It would be GREAT!

UP would get all uppity, and me and a few of the boys could frog march her to the cooler.
Catch Will Pitt with an illegal still, and me and a few of the boys could frog march him to the cooler.
TiT would lie to the commandant, and me and a few of the boys could frog march him to the cooler.

We could make college professors listen to Newt's history lecture tapes.
We could drape American flags and Pres Bush photos on the Dixie Chicks and post them on the net.
We could make Hillary iron shirts.
Ann Coulter's columns would be read daily over the loudspeakers.

there is just so much potential. I would SO be a guard there!

[Duke Nukum]

Did any of the DUmmieses note the date on the memo, and ponder on who was the President at that time?

They hate the Clintons now so it doesn't matter.  I mean Clinton was obviously a BFEE schill.  I don't know why they think The Big 0 isn't.  If the Big 0 was elected it is because Lord Rove willed it so and who am I to argue with the Sith Lord?

[Airwolf]

Holy sh*t it lives.

BYW...the folks who had the chat with you at Ft. Hood say howdy!  

In fact I see the General in D.C. all the time.


I wish I was there to see you choke on your own remorse on Inauguration Day when The Rookie takes over and NONE of what you're hoping for happens.


That's right I said you and the rest of the mental midget shallow gene pool swimmers WANT this crap to happen so you can feel vindicated and justified for terrorizing those around you for the last eight years with your paranoid delusional rants about concentration camps and "marshall law".


   Effin Morons!

Somebody needs to use a bug bomb on Canada and drive out the vermin.

[rich_t]

If we really did build concentration camps for liberals,

What do you mean if?  They exist.  I took a ride on a black helicopter and saw one once.

Now where in the hell did I put my tinfoil hat?

 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Dammit, now we'll have to kill them.  Early, I mean.

 

[jinxmchue]

Um...  Where are the coffins in that pic?