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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-14-08 05:12 PMOriginal messageA Letter from Grandpa - New RW talking points chain letter going round and my reply.. A letter from GrandpaLETTER FROM GRANDPAFrom an Anonymous Grandpa:"Guess you heard that 68% of "the youth vote" went to ObamaMy granddaughter called this morning to tell me she was one of them. I replied with this e-mail:The election of Obama comes down to this. Your grandmother and I, your mother and other productive wage-earning taxpayers will have their taxes increased and that means less income. Less income means we will have to cut back on basic purchases, gifts and handouts. That includes firing the Hispanic lady who cleans our house twice a month. She just lost her job. We can't afford her anymore.What is the economic effect of Obama's election on you personally? Over the years, your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in food, housing, cash, clothing, gifts, etc., etc. By your vote, you have chosen another family over ours for help. So in the future, if you need assistance with your rent, money for gas, tires for your car, someone to bring you lunch, etc....call 20... . That's the telephone number for the Office of the President of the United States. I'm sure Mr. Obama will be happy to send a check from his personal or business accounts or leave cash in an envelope taped to his front door.It's like this. Those who vote for the president should consider what the impact of an election will be on the nation as a whole and not just be concerned with what they can get for themselves (welfare, etc.). What Obama voters don't seem to realize is that the government's money comes from taxes collected from taxpaying families. Raising taxes on productive people means they will have less money to spend on their families.MY REPLY:If Grandpa REALLY wanted to help his grand kids, instead of complaining about his "taxes being too high" (which they aren't):a) He would fight for universal health care - healthcare is killing the economy and the only real fix is make it government provided as it is everywhere else in the civilized world.If you think healthcare is expensive and problematic now, just wait until the government runs itb) He would fight for universal free college education and job training. College education is simply becoming unaffordable and 99% of us don't have a grandpa making $250k per year to turn to - we need a solution that helps everybody, not one that helps the 1% of the privileged few who really don't need it.You could try getting a job to help pay for your college (or even a scholarship) , thus attaining some real world experience as well as getting the education. Instead you demand someone else pay for it and you don't mind if it's your grandpa or someone else entirely. You just want it. "Free"c) He would fight for strong unions. Not everyone is cut out for college. The only way to protect our standard of living is to provide a balance between corporate and labor power in this country. Pass the Employee Free Choice Act now.How about you allow both the market and the job-seeker to dictate the terms of employment. Oh right. You have to have a marketable skill for that to get the wage you think you deserve. Art Appreciation is not a marketable skill.d) He would demand that the government break up all those companies that are too big to fail, particularly banks, investment firms, and oil companies into much smaller companies that would have to actually compete for our business and offer real jobs to us.e) He would demand that the government ban all future mergers of companies NOT in bankruptcy. Why break up these companies only to find ourselves back in the same place in 10 years.Thus ensuring that no company had enough capital to be able to do high end research and production, or could ever grow to a size where it could. Ensuring that investors will be uninterested in investing in said company and taking their money off shore where it can earn them more. Resulting in a stunning amount of negative growth in the market which is a real good way to cripple the economyf) He would RAISE taxes on the richest and spend the money counter-cyclically into the economy into infrastructure and research and development to RAISE demand for the economy. He would also want to use that money to pay the DEBT down so his grandkids won't be stuck paying for it.Great lets make the "rich" pay more taxes and piss them away in more government run programs. Please note that "rich" is measured on a sliding scale and the velocity of downward slide is proportional to the taxation rate imposedg) He would get us out of Iraq - an unnecessary war based on lies that costs us $12 billion per month that we could be using here instead.This is not worth addressing. It's been done before hundreds of times.h) He would demand that we regulate, investigate and prosecute the hell out of the banking, investment, real estate, and oil businesses that have led our economy to the brink of destruction.Oh good. A massive witchhunt at taxpayer expense.i) He would demand that we get our country OFF its dangerous and expensive dependence on foreign oil that is sending $700 billion per year to the Middle East - money better spent here - and work to switch our transportation system to use electric, methanol fuel cell and other renewable energy sources instead of oil.Getting off foreign oil is a great idea. I can think of plenty of oil and oil shale right there in the US. Of course that is untouchable. Don't see the forbidden "nuclear" power in there as an option either. All you have is energy systems that are grossly expensive per KWH, and unsuitable to meed the demands and cycles of the existing power grid . You also don't figure the cost and sheer logistics of replacing the transport system of a 300 odd million client network. j) He would demand that we get the money out of politics so that ordinary people would be representing ordinary people instead of the wealthy representing the interests of wealthy interests.Great idea once again, getting the money out of politics. However when it comes to pork and money in politics you're going to find a whole bunch of democrats aren't at all keen on the idea.http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?action=post;board=10.0Doug D.
Gramps,Have not received Free Ponyâ„¢ yet. Please check to see if you have shipped and advise consignment number.Oh, I need another hundred, this local place has a special on cheetos.. DUmmie