http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4590294Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:07 AM
Original message
Raise your hands. How many here want to see Osama bin Laden....
captured or killed?
Ok, then if you want that, as I do, what is your problem with President-elect Obama's strategy to shift forces from Iraq to Afghanistan?
Oh yeah. Because DU is
ALL about hunting down and killing terrorists.
sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:08 AM
Response to Original message
1. Well, for one thing, he's not in Afghanistan.
And I don't favor assassination, no.
sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #3
9. Thousands of troops will not capture bin Laden.
Using Afghanistan as a "staging area" for one more fruitless show of force is wrong in so many ways, it's a whole new flavor of wrong.
Afghanistan has to be de-militarized immediately. It needs law enforcement, peace keepers and nation builders. It doesn't need GIs. That would be the same stupid mistake we've made since the 60s and I don't know about you, but I'd at least like to make a new mistake, just for the variety.
Bin Laden will be betrayed by an insider if he doesn't croak first. He will not be captured by a battalion and pretending that a battalion is the answer to this is as wrongheaded as invading Iraq was.
And once again she proves why she is such a cunning stunt. How the **** are you supposed to "De-Militarize" a country without using troops to do it? Anyone?
bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:09 AM
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2. Ideally, bin Laden should swing from a rope in Ground Zero in NYC
after that whole fair trial formality has taken place, of course.
Oh Hay a little bit of testicular fortitude.
Followed by:
Texas Explorer (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Oh?
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 12:11 AM by Texas Explorer
bin laden stated two times that 9/11 was not his doing but you're welcome anyway.
I guess we should just take him at his word then.
wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 02:21 AM
Response to Reply #8
25. what evidence do you have he did it....
when the FBI has admitted they have no solid evidence he had anything to do with it?
Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #2
21. And what a lovely sight - just like Saddam, right?
To think we call ourselves a civilized society...
gogoplata (160 posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:13 AM
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6. We don't need to occupy a country and send 30 thousand more troops in to a country that isn't even where bin Laden is. Pakistan is the place to invade if you want to get him, you want troops in Pakistan too? All this for one old guy?
liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:20 AM
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10. It's a little late for that.
Granted, it would be nice to see that asshole brought to trial, IF indeed he is the asshole who murdered 3,000+ civilians in NYC and DC. I have my doubts. I can't stand terrorists, but believe they should be brought to a world court, rather than 'eliminated'. We need to shame these ****ers, by putting them on display at the Hague in order to show them that the world of semi-law abiding citizens has nothing but contempt for their ilk. Bombing them just makes them martyrs.
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read at DU. And thats some braod fricking territory there...
sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Imho, the very worst thing we could ever do to the people who did 9/11
is to treat them with dignity and give them a fair trial.
Because then they would have to own their shame.
Okay I stand corrected about the dumbest thing...
Gregorian (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 12:33 AM
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13. Nope. I cringed the first time I heard him say that.
We cannot roam the planet killing people we don't like, no matter how bad they are. And I doubt we've been invited to do so.
That being said, there may very well be good reasons to be in Afghanistan. Our lack of presence may lead to a situation they would prefer not to have. Again, only if invited.
Justice isn't accomplished with the muzzles of guns.
ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 03:01 AM
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27. I want to see him and his enablers and co-beneficiaries, Cheney and the Chimp, in the same courtoom.
Butchering more Afghans and mass murders of wedding parties really won't get there, no matter how much blood of innocents you want to spill.
Yeah let's never forget who the REAL enemy is DU.
Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-05-08 08:10 AM
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32. Raise your hands. How many here want to find out who REALLY planned 9/11....
*Hand Raised*